Furtwängler Rising!

[Lethevich]

New(ish) recording of the 2nd violin sonata:

[MishaK]

New(ish) recording of the 2nd violin sonata:

Did you mean to post this in the "violin babes" thread? 

[cilgwyn]

It might JUST sell Furtwangler!

[snyprrr]

The mighty, monumental works of Furtwangler I have yet not heard. Who can enlighten us?

[snyprrr]

not one response?? Is it me?

[Moonfish]

One that you must have heard already....?

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[Sergeant Rock]

One that you must have heard already....?

I think snyprrr is asking about Furtwängler's own compositions, like the E minor Symphony (No.2) and the Piano Quintet...both monsters.

Sarge

[Moonfish]

I think snyprrr is asking about Furtwängler's own compositions, like the E minor Symphony (No.2) and the Piano Quintet...both monsters.

Sarge

Ahh, of course...!      What was I thinking? Thanks Sarge!

[Sergeant Rock]

Here's Lethe's thread on the subject:

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17845.msg482648.html#msg482648

snyprrr, it appears you did hear some of his music already...at least the Piano Quintet.

Sarge

[snyprrr]

Here's Lethe's thread on the subject:

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17845.msg482648.html#msg482648

snyprrr, it appears you did hear some of his music already...at least the Piano Quintet.

Sarge

Yes, and it was one of my favs... huuuge... must find that PQ collection...

[springrite]

I am a big fan of his music, including all three symphonies, the PQ and the violin sonata, less so the Piano Concertante. I have ordered a CD of his songs that I have not received yet.

[Scion7]

Can we merge this at the bottom of this:   http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17845.20.html

?

[vandermolen]

There is a massive Symphony - No.2 I think which is great but gets some getting into.

[Scion7]

Orchestral pieces
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Overture, op.3, 1899
Symphony, D, 1903
Largo, b, 1st movt of sym., 1908, rev. as 1st movt of Sym. no.1
Sinfonisches Konzert - Piano Concerto in b, Piano, orch, 1924–36 (1954)
Symphony Nr.1, b, mainly 1938–41
Symphony, Nr.2, e, 1944–5 (1952)
Symphony, Nr.3, c, 1947–54

Chamber works
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Kleine Sonate, Cello, Piano, 1986
Piano Trio, F, 1896
String Quartet no.1 (Quartetto quasi una fantasia), 1896
Trio, 2 Violin, vc, 1896–7
Variations, string quartet, 1897
Sonata, a, Violin, Piano, 1898–9
Piano Quartet, 1899
Piano Trio, E, 1900
Phantasie, Piano trio, 1900
String Quartet, f, ?1901
Piano Quintet, 1915–34
Sonata no.1, d, Violin, Piano, 1935 (1938)
Sonata no.2, D, Violin, Piano, 1938 (1940)

Piano music
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Verschiedene Compositionen, 1894–5
8 sonatas, 1896–8
2 Fantasien, c1898
2 Fugues, 1898
Fantasia, 4 hands, ? 1898
2 Fantasien, op.5, 1900
2 Pieces, 1902
3 Pieces, 1903

Choral:
Die erste Walpurgisnacht (Goethe: Faust I), S, A, B, 2 choruses, insts, 1897–8
Ich wandelte unter den Bäumen, 4 female vv, S, A, Piano, 1898
Geisterchor (Goethe: Faust I), chorus, orch, 1902
Religiöser Hymnus (Goethe: Faust II), S, T, chorus, orch, 1903
Te Deum, solo vv, chorus, orch, 1902–10, rev. 1915

      I quite like the Violin Sonata (Nr.1) and the first symphony.
His leviathan works could do with some serious Brahmsian "let's trim this, and this, and maybe this, but that needs to be tossed into the fireplace" editing.

[jlaurson]

It might JUST sell Furtwangler!

Sold!

[Ghost Sonata]

I don't hear the Sibelian influence in Furtwängler that MishaK does; to me his work breathes Brahms, Bruckner, Tchaik and Richard Strauss.  Whenever I hear him, and I need to do so more, he actually seems to be playing with or experimenting with their tonal palettes.  He was a conductor first and foremost - and knew it - and his composing was done primarily in periods when for one reason or another he could not work.  Composing may have been more a surrogate, perhaps a means to be close to what he loved rather more than an individual personal statement or achievement.  Most of this is speculation on my part; still on my bucket list is a biography or two about him.  I'm repeatedly struck by how searching and ruminative his work consistently is, I imagine him wandering about in a forest of sound created by other composers, and enjoying every moment of it. 

[Scion7]

He was a conductor first and foremost - and knew it - 

The literature states he was a composer first (in his mind) . . . ?

[Scion7]

Somewhat obscure combo, but at least they got recorded/available:

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[Ghost Sonata]

The literature states he was a composer first (in his mind) . . . ?

My understanding was that that was only at the very beginning of his career?  But - as I say - I've yet to read his biographies...

[PerfectWagnerite]

The literature states he was a composer first (in his mind) . . . ?

I think he was a better composer than he was a conductor, but not nearly as good a composer as his contemporary Felix Weingartner for example.