Your Collection

[Sammy]

Duh Duh

In the next few years, you'll see opera in high definition being streamed to people's home theaters on a subscription basis. You won't have to live in New York to go to the Met, and you'll be able to attend La Scala from your living room in Sheboygan.

You can keep deluding yourself, but your living room in Sheboygan ain't La Scala.  I can watch a great travel show about Switzerland, but that's very different from actually being there. 

There are various advantages and disadvantages of being there "live" and going blu ray; you seem unwilling to look at these matters logically.

[bigshot]

I've presented a lot of logical arguments which haven't been countered. All that happened was a splinter thread for me too posts was created.

I've seen opera live. Have you seen an opera in a hidef projection room with surround sound?

[DavidRoss]

I've presented a lot of logical arguments which haven't been countered. All that happened was a splinter thread for me too posts was created.

I've seen opera live. Have you seen an opera in a hidef projection room with surround sound?

You delude yourself. What you've presented is neither logical nor an argument. You have asserted that a picture of an apple is qualitatively superior to the apple itself, in absolute terms, and have stated reasons you prefer the picture to the apple. (Non-fattening, less messy, doesn't involve a trip to the market, etc.)

You haven't even grasped the fundamental fallacy implicit in your claim, despite repeated kind and patient efforts to point it out.  Of course, it's awfully hard to grasp something when all your efforts go into arrogantly defending your beliefs rather than earnestly trying to understand what others have to say. 

BTW, I'm not Don but I've enjoyed some Met webcasts in the cinema and loved the experience. I expect to do more of it in the future, as well as to enjoy visual opera recordings at home. I have also enjoyed many live opera performances and expect to do so again in the future. They are fundamentally different experiences, no more comparable than apples and fruitcakes.

If you're unable to recognize that, whether due to lack of capacity (I doubt that--it's hardly rocket science) or due to willful obstinacy, so be it. It's hardly a life or death matter.

What's that saying about horses and water? As long as I'm at the trough, if you're not going to drink then I'll just take this opportunity to wash my hands.

[bigshot]

I've enjoyed some Met webcasts in the cinema and loved the experience.

OK, now imagine that exact experience in your living room on demand with hundreds of operas and performances to choose from...

We've reached a place where you don't have to go to a movie theater to see theatrical quality projection, and we don't have to go to the concert hall to get spectacular, realistic sound. The next logical step is to combine the two and bring theatrical performances into the living room.

[Sammy]

I've presented a lot of logical arguments which haven't been countered. All that happened was a splinter thread for me too posts was created.

I've seen opera live. Have you seen an opera in a hidef projection room with surround sound?

Yes, and those experiences have been mighty fine.  Still, I always knew I was in a room.

[Sammy]

OK, now imagine that exact experience in your living room on demand with hundreds of operas and performances to choose from...

This is getting rather old.  All I have tried to point out is that watching a screen is not the same thing as "being there".  You might feel that being there is inferior or superior, but it's different.

[Mirror Image]

Okay, I think we understand your position now, Bigshot. You like watching concerts at home while many others enjoy experiencing the opera in person. Let's move on.

[DavidW]

Back on topic, I plan on streaming my music.  I'm not currently because the ui even with plex is just not there with me.  I'm going to get an apple tv, I'm really sold on the convenience.  When I was at my parents house, I would just take out my iphone and tell it to stream to the apple tv whatever I was playing and that's it.  That simple.  I want that simplicity.

[Mirror Image]

It seems that lately my collection is starting to include more choral music and just vocal music in general. I am very picky however with what I buy as I'm not a huge fan of choral music, but do love many choral works. In the past week, I bought two Faure Requiem recordings (one with Herreweghe and the other with Marriner/ASMF), two recordings that feature Berlioz's Les Nuits d'été (Herreweghe, Minkowski), a Durufle devoted to nothing but his choral music, Brahms' Requiem with Herreweghe, and Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream. Quite a change of pace for me, but I got such great deals on these that I couldn't pass them up.

[DavidRoss]

It seems that lately my collection is starting to include more choral music and just vocal music in general. I am very picky however with what I buy as I'm not a huge fan of choral music, but do love many choral works. In the past week, I bought two Faure Requiem recordings (one with Herreweghe and the other with Marriner/ASMF), two recordings that feature Berlioz's Les Nuits d'été (Herreweghe, Minkowski), a Durufle devoted to nothing but his choral music, Brahms' Requiem with Herreweghe, and Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream. Quite a change of pace for me, but I got such great deals on these that I couldn't pass them up.

That's probably the weakest area in my collection (aside from sonatas for tuba and piccolo), but there is much choral music I would miss very much if I had to give it up--including my two discs of Eric Whitacre's music. As for vocal music, I can't imagine being without DLVDE or 4 Last Songs or Sibelius's vocal music with orchestra or  Barber's Knoxville or all sorts of songs with piano accompaniment...not to mention (gasp!) opera.

[Mirror Image]

That's probably the weakest area in my collection (aside from sonatas for tuba and piccolo), but there is much choral music I would miss very much if I had to give it up--including my two discs of Eric Whitacre's music. As for vocal music, I can't imagine being without DLVDE or 4 Last Songs or Sibelius's vocal music with orchestra or  Barber's Knoxville or all sorts of songs with piano accompaniment...not to mention (gasp!) opera.

I'm starting to enjoy choral music a lot more than I used to. I love Sibelius' vocal music with orchestra. I wished he had written more than he did because every work I heard is of high quality. Barber's Knoxville is also a favorite of mine. Gorgeous music. Yes, Strauss' Four Last Songs is exquisite and I really need to listen to Mahler's Das Lied von der Erde again. I have several performances of it. I remember Klemperer's being especially good. What do you think about requiems? Do you have any favorites?

[DavidRoss]

What do you think about requiems? Do you have any favorites?

Like 'em if I like 'em.  Brahms, Fauré, Mozart, Verdi

[mc ukrneal]

Like 'em if I like 'em.  Brahms, Fauré, Mozart, Verdi

These are the 'big four' and all very good (though quite different in impact from one another). There are lots of others - Foulds, Dvorak, Cornelius, Biber, etc. If you like Stanford, you might enjoy his requiem on Naxos. You may remember this was a favorite of our former member Sid. On the other hand, if you have an interest in masses, you might like one of the three by Bruckner (I think I remember you posting that you liked Bruckner). But there really are some wonderful choral pieces to explore from all periods.

[Gurn Blanston]

The series A History of the Requiem is something I recently found on Mog or Spotify (can't remember which; may be on both), which is a three CD set (there's a fourth but it is not available for streaming and is not somethnd I'd be interested in, anyway).  Spans the periods from Medieval to 20th century and contains some very nice preformances of some great works.

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Hey, SA,
I checked at Amazon on this one but they cleverly didn't specify; is that Michael Haydn Requiem the c minor one? Or one of the others?  I'm unfamiliar with those performers. Do they play period instruments?

Thanks,

[Gurn Blanston]

It is the C Minor Requiem, and Laudantes Consort uses PI at least for Baroque music, but I can't say for Classical and later repertory. 

Here's a description of them:

Ah, thanks for all that info. I infer from that, that they play instruments appropriate to the period, in this case right up to the 20th century. That is very cool. Thanks for nudging me towards them. That Classical Era disk 2 looks like just the thing for me!

[ralfy]

I got most of my disks (at least three-fourths) at 80 pct off in annual sales in Manila.

Once in a while, I avail of any promos, such as budget boxes and anniversary editions.

Finally, I hear that one can now buy digital editions from some top publishers, and in several cases DRM-free and CD quality. I'll give that a try if I can't order from abroad.