2 Violins (Violin/ Viola)

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snyprrr

February 22, 2011, 05:00:23 PM Last Edit: February 23, 2011, 06:48:43 PM by snyprrr
I have generally found the repertoire here weak: Bartok, Berio, Pettersson, Denisov; though, there is a great Hyperion disc with Prokofiev, Martinu, & Milhaud.

Nono's 'hay que caminar' sognando is the only real major Modern Work I (hrhm) can think of, though I was just listening to James Dillon's Traumwerk, which is the best I've heard so far: mysterious and capricious in 12 parts.

Hopefully, you all haver some nuggets out there!

Scarpia

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February 22, 2011, 05:42:30 PM
There's a Frank Bridge elegy for two violas, and Mozart Violin and Viola sonatas (if you are willing to be a bit flexible).

Lethevich

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February 22, 2011, 05:56:23 PM
Yay, the flexible door has bent open: Carl Stamitz wrote some very fine duos for violin and viola (two discs worth, at least - Hungaroton) which combine baroque intellect with classical form in a really effortless and enjoyable manner.
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PaulSC

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February 22, 2011, 06:22:14 PM
Ysaye - Sonata for 2 Violins
The Naxos recording is perfection

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I also know a nifty piece for two violas, but you haven't started that thread yet.
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snyprrr

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February 22, 2011, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: PaulSC on February 22, 2011, 06:22:14 PM
Ysaye - Sonata for 2 Violins
The Naxos recording is perfection

[asin]B002N5KEE2[/asin]

I also know a nifty piece for two violas, but you haven't started that thread yet.

I think that's the second recommend fro that album. Must be a goodie!

petrarch

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February 23, 2011, 04:14:12 AM
How could you forget Nono's 'Hay que caminar' sognando, the very last work he composed?...
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chasmaniac

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February 23, 2011, 04:30:25 AM
Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on February 22, 2011, 05:56:23 PM
Yay, the flexible door has bent open: Carl Stamitz wrote some very fine duos for violin and viola (two discs worth, at least - Hungaroton) which combine baroque intellect with classical form in a really effortless and enjoyable manner.

Those Stamitz discs are fabulous!

If the classical door is open, there are other duos around: 2 violins by Viotti on Duo Allegro (meh) and Pleyel on Hungaroton, violin and viola by Rolla on Tactus, 2 violas by Rolla on Tactus.
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Szykneij

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February 23, 2011, 12:42:52 PM


Neat stuff on this Arcobaleno CD by Andre and Yaga Siwy:

Sonata for Two Violins and Piano -- Bohuslav Martinu
Sonata for Two Violins and Piano -- Darius Milhaud
Suite Opus 71 -- Moritz Moszkowski
Three Violin Duets -- Dmitri Shostakovich
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jochanaan

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February 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on February 22, 2011, 05:00:23 PM
I have generally found the repertoire here weak: Bartok...
I can't speak about the others you mentioned, but I respectfully disagree about Bartok.  I've heard some of those duos live, played by the violinists from the Takacs Quartet--amazing stuff!  Bartok knew how to use multiple stops and open strings to greatly increase the resonance from the two violins until it sounded like a half-dozen violinists! :D
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Scarpia

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February 23, 2011, 02:49:34 PM
Quote from: jochanaan on February 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I can't speak about the others you mentioned, but I respectfully disagree about Bartok.  I've heard some of those duos live, played by the violinists from the Takacs Quartet--amazing stuff!  Bartok knew how to use multiple stops and open strings to greatly increase the resonance from the two violins until it sounded like a half-dozen violinists! :D

I'm not sure if weak refers to the works cited, or to the fact that there are not more works.

Bulldog

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February 23, 2011, 03:10:34 PM
Quote from: petrarch on February 23, 2011, 04:14:12 AM
How could you forget Nono's 'Hay que caminar' sognando, the very last work he composed?...

Easy to do, particularly when you never heard of it or his very first work either.

petrarch

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February 23, 2011, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Bulldog on February 23, 2011, 03:10:34 PM
Easy to do, particularly when you never heard of it or his very first work either.

Please give snyprrr some credit; he knows his Nono.
//p
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Bulldog

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February 23, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Quote from: petrarch on February 23, 2011, 03:42:36 PM
Please give snyprrr some credit; he knows his Nono.

I have no idea what snyprrr knows, but I was speaking about myself.

MishaK

#13
February 23, 2011, 05:11:21 PM
Does one viola and one violin count? In that case there is a hauntingly gorgeous Suite No.3 for violin, viola and strings by Atterberg, as well as the obvious sinfonia concertante by Mozart.

Scarpia

#14
February 23, 2011, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: Mensch on February 23, 2011, 05:11:21 PM
Does one viola and one violin count? In that case there is a hauntingly gorgeous Suite No.3 for violin, viola and strings by Atterberg, as well as the obvious sinfonia concertante by Mozart.

I thought the notion was two instruments with no accompaniment.

snyprrr

#15
February 23, 2011, 06:27:07 PM
Quote from: petrarch on February 23, 2011, 04:14:12 AM
How could you forget Nono's 'Hay que caminar' sognando, the very last work he composed?...

You know that's the second time I've done that! :-[ Corrected! Nono sometimes seems so... invisible... distant...

snyprrr

#16
February 23, 2011, 06:28:30 PM
Quote from: Mensch on February 23, 2011, 05:11:21 PM
Does one viola and one violin count? In that case there is a hauntingly gorgeous Suite No.3 for violin, viola and strings by Atterberg, as well as the obvious sinfonia concertante by Mozart.

On a BIS Swedish cd? I think I have that,... hold on...

snyprrr

#17
February 23, 2011, 06:30:24 PM
Of course, this would be the best place, no? Should we change the Thread Title?

snyprrr

#18
February 23, 2011, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: jochanaan on February 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I can't speak about the others you mentioned, but I respectfully disagree about Bartok.  I've heard some of those duos live, played by the violinists from the Takacs Quartet--amazing stuff!  Bartok knew how to use multiple stops and open strings to greatly increase the resonance from the two violins until it sounded like a half-dozen violinists! :D

I suppose when I said 'weak',... well,... I guess for me 2 Violins is so personal that I just can't accept Bartok or Pettersson  because the Music isn't my cup of tea. By the time I got here, I needed the most advanced Arditti-styled workout to sate my Unquenchable Thirst, and the Dillon is pretty tasty,... all Bartok influenced Night Music straight out of SQ No.3 and such,... the Bartok is drier than the most evocative Bartok, no? For some reason, with 2 Violins I need SturmundDrang Dark Night of the Soul Music. That reminds me...

Schnittke? Probably not my taste either.

Has anyone else heard the Dillon?

I need to hear Nono again...

MishaK

#19
February 23, 2011, 07:06:04 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on February 23, 2011, 06:28:30 PM
On a BIS Swedish cd? I think I have that,... hold on...

Actually, mine is on a hopelessly OOP "CSO From the Archives" disc featuring the principal 2nd violin and principal viola of the CSO conducted by Dennis Russel Davies. Don't know the BIS.
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