Twelve tone exercises

mikkeljs · December 29, 2010, 07:33:25 AM

Ok I have just uploaded it to a gmail account filesharinginaprimitiveway@gmail.com, password: qatarairways

mikkeljs · December 29, 2010, 07:38:48 AM

oh sorry, I uploaded it only under the menu ´kladde´

Luke · December 29, 2010, 07:55:59 AM

I tried to open it, but because I have an older version of Sibelius, I couldn't. But Karl is right, what you need to do is turn it into a PDF and attach it. It's quick and easy - and no one can steal your piece and alter it, or pass it off as their own then, either!

When I get a new computer/laptop (as keeps happening at the moment!), almost the first thing I do is a) install Sibelius and b) type Cute PDF into Google. The top result takes you here:

http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/writer.asp

and if you download the two links at top left you will be set. Print your Sibelius file, but be sure to select ''Cute PDF' when given the choice of printer, and choose where you want the PDF to be saved. Then attach it to a post here (click on 'additional options' whilst writing your post and link to your file). Unless it's more than 500 kb, which is very very unlikely, you won't have any problems.

mikkeljs · December 29, 2010, 08:05:01 AM

Ah! Thanks a lot. I remember I spent hours and hours and days to find out this.

Luke · December 29, 2010, 08:16:49 AM

No problem! Glad to help. That's a little finger-twister you've written there, isn't it!

mikkeljs · December 29, 2010, 08:57:17 AM

hehe yeah Im supposed to write it for three instruments. I would be glad to get some comments, since I only have 20 days before my exam. Would something like this be good enought to pass? I have no idea what they expect.

petrarch · December 29, 2010, 04:37:29 PM

Quote from: mikkeljs on December 29, 2010, 08:57:17 AM
I have no idea what they expect.

Wouldn't it be prudent to find that out in advance? Or perhaps they want to see how well you understand the idiom (grasp of the basic rules, ear for the kinds of sonorities that can be achieved and perhaps even whether you can bend it into shape and make it "your own").

(poco) Sforzando · February 06, 2011, 02:38:40 PM

I'm eyeballing it quickly without trying it yet at the piano, and a lot of it looks pretty good, with good voice leading and a lot of rhythmic spikiness that recalls Webern.

A couple of thoughts, if you don't mind:

- Do you want a sonority that creates a diminished triad (as in m. 2 and the two diminished triads at the very end)?
(Schoenberg begins the op. 31 Variations outlining a diminished seventh, but usually in this style the aim is to not suggest tonal procedures.)
- In m. 2, I think it might be rhythmically more effective to delay the B one more eighth/quaver beat.
- Sometimes you're producing simultaneous octaves that might not be effective, such as the C sharps in m. 8 and the Gs in 11.
- The sixteenths/semiquaver triplets in m. 6 seem jarring rhythmically, not being exploited anywhere else in your piece.

mikkeljs · March 08, 2011, 07:27:43 AM

Sorry for this very late reply.

I already took the entrance exam, but for some reason I didnt get my mark yet. But at least I got highest mark in the other theory.

Thanks for the nice suggestions anyway!

I ended up making an excersise with far more spacy intervals (plus minus 3-4 octaves) and avoided tonal intervals but tried to get lots of minor thirds and major sevenths.

(poco) Sforzando · March 09, 2011, 03:35:42 AM

Quote from: mikkeljs on March 08, 2011, 07:27:43 AM
Sorry for this very late reply.

I already took the entrance exam, but for some reason I didnt get my mark yet. But at least I got highest mark in the other theory.

Thanks for the nice suggestions anyway! I ended up making an excersise with far more spacy intervals (plus minus 3-4 octaves) and avoided tonal intervals but tried to get lots of minor thirds and major sevenths.

Then it sounds like you came to similar conclusions on your own. Good luck on your exam.