Crossover

[snyprrr]

Cough...Malmsteen. I died a little inside.

Spews coffee on computer screen!!! LOL!!!

[snyprrr]

Popular music forms, such as jazz, rock and folk music, inspired a great many modern classical composers but musical cross-fertilization in the 20th century was by no means a one-way traffic.

The greatest success thus far of persons from popular forms to "serious" writing to even make a dent in the pantheon of western art music that I can think-of has been George Gershwin. No explanation necessary really, we all know the pieces that have become permanent fixtures.

Many others have tried ..

Duke Ellington for instance tried on occassion with not much success. Charles Mingus too. Dave Brubeck, Chick Corea, Joe Zawinul, John Zorn  & Wynton Marsalis also come to mind.

In the 1950s and 60s, producers such as Frank Sinatra's collaborator Nelson Riddle and The Beatle's producer, George Martin frequently aspired to full classical orchestral effects. In rock music, a number of bands dabbled with orchestral compositions.

The impressive catalogue of over 1,200 compositions by the radical American musican Frank Zappa ranged from scatalogical heavy guitar rock to ballet, opera and one of his final works the Yellow Shark suite, which saw him working with the Ensemble Moderne. He's even worked closely with Pierre Boulez & the Ensemble intercontemporain, Peter Eotvos, Kent Nagano & The London Symphony Orchestra.

I think Mingus's Epitaph, as revealed in the recording, to be the very best attempt at something encompassing. I guess one calls it Third Stream, but I get that 'street' sense from it,... BA Zimmermann comes to might,... the 'Pluralism'

[snyprrr]

Quite a few guitarists have also tried to ambitiously cross over into the realm of serious composition with the aid of orchestrators and people who score .. John McLaughlin for instance, in the late 80s with a Guitar Concerto which was a flop.

And Billy Joel tried .. putting out a album of pure pastiche appropriately titled Fantasies & Delusions.
Elvis Costello too, a few years back. Again, more pastiche.

Sooooo much Gag Worthy stuff!! We really have lived through some of the,... 'cringe' is the word that comes to mind.

[escher]

I think Mingus's Epitaph, as revealed in the recording, to be the very best attempt at something encompassing.

a difficult work to value because it was completed by Gunther Schuller...

[jochanaan]

a difficult work to value because it was completed by Gunther Schuller...

Why would that make it more difficult than, say, the Mussorgsky/Ravel Pictures?

BTW, Gunther Schuller did a fair amount of jazz playing himself, recording with the likes of Mingus, Ornette Coleman, Coltrane, and Monk.

[ibanezmonster]

Cough...Malmsteen. I died a little inside.

I like his Concerto Suite, but I see what you mean- if compared to real classical music, it is indeed a joke.