Are you intrigued by music that disturbs and/or challenges?

[Grazioso]

Coltrane says: "But I could swing!"

[Grazioso]

"Swing" has to do with the placement of the 'line' in relation to the pulse and accents within the phrase, that's all.
No mystery & challenge there. All music does this when you think about it, as all music deals with 'time' & 'feel'.

Oh, there's mystery and challenge in the subtle nuances of phrasing and rhythmic feel, and those come from the player, not the music; it's part of what separates competent musicians from outstanding ones.

Listen to this midi "performance" of Bach to hear what I mean: http://www.8notes.com/scores/1467.asp?ftype=midi

[eyeresist]

Or maybe you don't understand what the word popular means in this forum. It's the opposite of classical. Popular music genres include jazz, country, R&B, rap, Americana, folk, bluegrass, rock, metal....and pop. Only pop is really popular with the masses 

Contra haydnfan's rebuke, I think it is important to point out the generally confused use of "pop" and "popular" in this thread. "Pop" can refer to a particular aspect of the music industry which aims to sell music to the masses, but it's also the abbreviation for "popular music", which term in fact includes much music which is not, technically, popular. I'd call it "folk" music, as it's made by the "folk", as opposed to the trained specialists of the classical realm.

I can think of pop songs which to me seem every bit as subtle as a Schubert lieder, but none that can be compared with a Brahms symphony.

This is true. I can think of a couple of good songs which leave me asking "Why didn't they take it further?"

[starrynight]

Making comparisons between things with completely different purposes is a clever way of siding with something you like more but I don't really see it as being useful.

[Grazioso]

Making comparisons between things with completely different purposes is a clever way of siding with something you like more but I don't really see it as being useful.

Quite right. It tends, though, to be SOP for a few posters here.

[DavidW]

Quite right. It tends, though, to be SOP for a few posters here.

I'm sorry Grazioso but your post is just not as tasty as an orange.

[Tapio Dmitriyevich]

DSCH's String Quartet No. 8 - There's a version for smaller orchestra?! On YT, I found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s0jKGsJO8o
Does it have an own Opus number? Hints, please!

EDIT: OK, it's Chamber Symphony, op. 110

[Scarpia]

DSCH's String Quartet No. 8 - There's a version for smaller orchestra?! On YT, I found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s0jKGsJO8o
Does it have an own Opus number? Hints, please!

EDIT: OK, it's Chamber Symphony, op. 110

A number of them have been transcribed.

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[Grazioso]

I'm sorry Grazioso but your post is just not as tasty as an orange.

But I can defend myself against a man armed with a banana 

http://www.youtube.com/v/piWCBOsJr-w

[marvinbrown]

  Am I intrigued by music that disturbs and/or challenges?

  Yes of course I am intrigued by disturbing (eg. Berg's Lulu, Strauss' Elektra etc.) and /or challenging (eg. Bach's Art of Fugue, Wagner's Ring Cycle) music! I enjoy a challenge but there better be substance (artisitic merit) behind it.   

  marvin