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classical utopia
« on: April 30, 2011, 01:52:08 AM »
Lately I've stumbled on the definition utopia as such a lot and therefore as a big classical music listener started to think that utopia is seen as creating a perfect system and is found in literature (Thomas More) and film (Kubrick's 2001), but not so much in music. I suppose Wagner can come to mind in away. What do you think, in what ways does utopia exist in classical musicians works or visions?

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Re: classical utopia
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 06:14:47 AM »
Perhaps the works of Alexander Scriabin best embody the Utopian concept, especially The Poem of Ecstasy and Prometheus.  Charles Ives also may have had a somewhat Utopian vision.
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Re: classical utopia
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 09:12:00 AM »
Vaughan Williams' Sancta Civitas makes direct references to the holy (perfect) city, although as with this avenue of the composer's thought I suppose it's more about glimpsing or traveling towards than actually attaining.
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Re: classical utopia
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 04:46:39 PM »
Hindemith's Die Harmonie der Welt.

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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 05:55:24 PM »
If it's about creating a perfect system... wouldn't serialism be it?

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Re: classical utopia
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 11:22:31 PM »
"Hymunion in Harmondie under Pluramon" is a good one.

Also, some of Nono's later works come to mind (e.g. La Lontananza Nostalgica Utopica Futura).
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