Great underrated pieces.

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J.Z. Herrenberg

#200
February 22, 2011, 12:33:16 PM
Quote from: Il Barone Scarpia on February 22, 2011, 12:30:32 PM
Not Lubotsky/Britten?


I have just acquired that one. I have listened only the once, which isn't enough. I'll report back in due course...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Jared

#201
April 17, 2011, 12:36:27 AM
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 13, 2011, 01:28:23 PM
The first three are juvenilia.  The only mature quartet is Voces Intimae and it is underperformed.  Even folks who are aware of Sibelius often don't know that he wrote a great quartet.

he did indeed, David... and here it is, in one of its finest recorded performances...

Jared

#202
April 17, 2011, 12:42:32 AM
Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on February 22, 2011, 12:33:16 PM

I have just acquired that one. I have listened only the once, which isn't enough. I'll report back in due course...

it's still the recognised standard bearer for this piece... coupled with the Richter piano concerto, it provides for a dynamic and powerful interpretative pairing, indeed!

(poco) Sforzando

#203
April 17, 2011, 05:48:21 AM
Quote from: Klaatu on January 21, 2011, 09:11:37 AM
I immediately thought of Elgar's In The South - it's described as an "overture" but in fact it's a substantial tone-poem about Italy. The orchestration is masterly; the "Italian popular song" violin solo at its heart is wonderfully wistful and poignant; and the surging, uplifting final pages are superbly life-affirming. It's perhaps the least-known and least-performed of EE's major orchestral works - maybe because of that totally inappropriate "overture" designation.

Well, Froissart is an "overture" and it's not much played. Actually at least in the US, very little Elgar is played beyond the two string concertos. I'll agree with you about South, however. But I think the most striking and original passage is the highly dissonant section about sx minutes in depicting the ancient Roman ruins.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Cato

#204
April 17, 2011, 06:22:42 AM
Etienne Mehul's 4 symphonies, and the overture Le Jeune Henri available on this set would seem to fit this topic:



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J.Z. Herrenberg

#205
April 17, 2011, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on April 17, 2011, 05:48:21 AM
Well, Froissart is an "overture" and it's not much played. Actually at least in the US, very little Elgar is played beyond the two string concertos. I'll agree with you about South, however. But I think the most striking and original passage is the highly dissonant section about sx minutes in depicting the ancient Roman ruins.


Yes, that's very original, I agree. Harsh and uncompromising. There is a late echo (to my ears) in the opening of his Third Symphony, as finished by Payne.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Jared

#206
April 17, 2011, 12:15:14 PM
Quote from: Cato on April 17, 2011, 06:22:42 AM
Etienne Mehul's 4 symphonies, and the overture Le Jeune Henri available on this set would seem to fit this topic:



Personally, I think the first two symphonies are stronger than the third and fourth, and the overture is rather average... I think they are underrated only in the sense that hardly anyone knows about them today when perhaps they should, but Mozart or Haydn, they certainly ain't..  ::)

Cato

#207
April 17, 2011, 12:52:01 PM
Quote from: Jared on April 17, 2011, 12:15:14 PM
Personally, I think the first two symphonies are stronger than the third and fourth, and the overture is rather average... I think they are underrated only in the sense that hardly anyone knows about them today when perhaps they should, but Mozart or Haydn, they certainly ain't..  ::)

Agreed: the Second Symphony is the best of the four.  And the overture is great fun!   8)

The question is: are they great underrated works?  I believe so.  Are they Mozart or Haydn?  A different question, and not undebatable.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

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Daverz

#208
April 17, 2011, 01:18:42 PM
Quote from: Elnimio on January 13, 2011, 11:58:06 AM
Works by middle of the century non-avangarde American composers such as Peter Mennin, William Schuman, Paul Creston, Walter Piston, Vincent Perishcetti, etc.

The almost willful neglect of so much great mid-20th Century American music by American orchestras is rather disheartening.

clavichorder

#209
May 06, 2011, 07:38:58 PM
Hello, I'm new here.  Thanks to Haydnfan for recommending it to me.

WF Bach Sinfonie in D minor(Adagio and Fugue for orchestra)  There is something so haunting and catchy about this one, its dead simple in the beginning and then breaks out into a wild fugue with classical elements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMpgEmTPT7A

DavidW

#210
May 06, 2011, 08:08:44 PM
Oh that is beautiful.  For some reason I've never head WF Bach's music before.  Seems silly, he is obviously a gifted musician if his father's trio sonatas were meant for him as practice. :D

RJR

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May 27, 2011, 10:52:28 AM
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