Name that piece! The game

[karlhenning]

No, but there is an Erb-like guts to it, isn't there?

[Parsifal]

No, but there is an Erb-like guts to it, isn't there?

Another underrated composer, glad you know of him

Any more clues?

[Opus106]

Just because you used the word she in your initial post: is it by Nadia Boulanger?


EDIT: She's not a native USAmerican, so strike that out.

[karlhenning]

Interesting take, Nav! No, it's an American composer, male. I don't believe he studied with Boulanger himself, but he took lessons from a fellow American composer who had studied with Boulanger.

My excerpt is from one movement of what is a symphony, but it has some Requiem-like implications.

[Opus106]

Interesting take, Nav!  No, it's an American composer...

I realised that a little later while reviewing earlier posts. Interestingly, since you had written of a school in quotes in one of them, I thought it was a reference to the Paris Conservatory.

I don't believe he studied with Boulanger himself, but he took lessons from a fellow American composer who had studied with Boulanger.[/font]

Okay, my last guess for this round, based on what you said above: William Schuman. Is that even his style?... I have absolutely no idea.

[karlhenning]

The school was a soft-pedaling hint on the lines of Schuman's being (as was Hanson) the head of a prestigious US music school.

The clip is from the middle movement (Offertorium) from the Ninth Symphony, named Le fosse Ardeatine, from pits where Nazis massacred "a total of 335 Italian hostages [...] composed of civilians, Italian prisoners of war (up to General rank), previously captured partisans and some inmates from Roman prisons."  The symphony dates from 1968, and seems to be a 25^th anniversary commemoration of the atrocity.

Incidentally, this thread was the occasion for my at last visiting this piece, which I've had in the Naxos Schuman Symphonies box for almost a year.

Nav, I'll yield "the shoe" to you, but for fun I am going to post another clip which I prepared in the event that no one guessed.  In compliance with The Rules, it is from a very different epoch.

[Parsifal]

The school was a soft-pedaling hint on the lines of Schuman's being (as was Hanson) the head of a prestigious US music school.

The clip is from the middle movement (Offertorium) from the Ninth Symphony, named Le fosse Ardeatine, from pits where Nazis massacred "a total of 335 Italian hostages [...] composed of civilians, Italian prisoners of war (up to General rank), previously captured partisans and some inmates from Roman prisons."  The symphony dates from 1968, and seems to be a 25^th anniversary commemoration of the atrocity.

Incidentally, this thread was the occasion for my at last visiting this piece, which I've had in the Naxos Schuman Symphonies box for almost a year.

Nav, I'll yield "the shoe" to you, but for fun I am going to post another clip which I prepared in the event that no one guessed.  In compliance with The Rules, it is from a very different epoch.

Wow. I became interested in the work due to the subject matter, and even watched a film based on the horrific incident it commemorates. But I never got around to getting to know the music....congratulations on getting it

[Opus106]

Nav, I'll yield "the shoe" to you, but for fun I am going to post another clip which I prepared in the event that no one guessed.  In compliance with The Rules, it is from a very different epoch.

It'll probably take a while for me to come up with a clip that will puzzle at least a few people. After all, how many wouldn't know the 5th Brandenburg Concerto? (Oops!)

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

The school was a soft-pedaling hint on the lines of Schuman's being (as was Hanson) the head of a prestigious US music school.

The clip is from the middle movement (Offertorium) from the Ninth Symphony, named Le fosse Ardeatine, from pits where Nazis massacred "a total of 335 Italian hostages [...] composed of civilians, Italian prisoners of war (up to General rank), previously captured partisans and some inmates from Roman prisons."  The symphony dates from 1968, and seems to be a 25^th anniversary commemoration of the atrocity.

Incidentally, this thread was the occasion for my at last visiting this piece, which I've had in the Naxos Schuman Symphonies box for almost a year.

Nav, I'll yield "the shoe" to you, but for fun I am going to post another clip which I prepared in the event that no one guessed.  In compliance with The Rules, it is from a very different epoch.

Sounds very French to me, with Wagner and Debussy in the background.

[karlhenning]

It'll probably take a while for me to come up with a clip that will puzzle at least a few people. After all, how many wouldn't know the 5th Brandenburg Concerto? (Oops!)

Oh what a give-away! ; )

While Nav is preparing his clip, we can see how long it doesn't take folks to identify the attachment here.

[karlhenning]

Sounds very French to me, with Wagner and Debussy in the background.

It is French, indeed!

[karlhenning]

The tangent off the Schuman is a not-quite-Requiem angle to the work.

[karlhenning]

Sounds very French to me, with Wagner and Debussy in the background.

And two particularly apt 'hinges', Johan.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

There are several French composers I can think of... I'll see what the others come up with, before trying one of mine. I have to go out, too...

[DavidW]

Knowing Karl I was expecting Berlioz... but not that... I don't know maybe something more like Faure?

[Coco]

I'm gonna guess Saint-Saëns.

[karlhenning]

Neither Fauré nor Saint-Saëns, though you are both perforce warm.

There is a literary character referenced in the piece, though the poem is a "secondary"  text (though I believe I excerpted a bit with vocalise, so the text isn't given away) . . . .

[Parsifal]

How about Guy Ropartz?

[karlhenning]

Cor, never heard of him! "My" composer is . . . fameux.

I'm off to the beach. Will check in from time to time.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

My guess - Florent Schmitt.