Name that piece! The game

[Brian]

it is Harnoncourt/Concentus Musicus Wien

Dang it! I knew it was an ensemble whose sound I knew well and recognized, but the presence of guitars/lutes convinced me it was Savall. Didn't know Harnoncourt deployed a lute continuo on occasion. Rats

[Amfortas]

Ok here is one that you all may enjoy figuring out

http://www.4shared.com/audio/LER4WPqs/What_the_heck_is_this_piece.html


Composer alone will suffice 

[DavidW]

Well that was a pretty good guess though Brian, identifying performers can be very hard.

[DavidW]

Ok here is one that you all may enjoy figuring out

http://www.4shared.com/audio/LER4WPqs/What_the_heck_is_this_piece.html

Amfortas confess!  Do you have trouble using audacity?  It's a complete movement (again)!  Just pm for help if you need it.

[karlhenning]

Aye, I'm not sure where to strike the balance for prompting for the name . . . a good discussion, though, meseems.

[DavidW]

Aye, I'm not sure where to strike the balance for prompting for the name . . . a good discussion, though, meseems.

The thing is that awhile back Scarpia made a good point.  If you automatically recognize the piece, there's not much too it, but if you can figure it out based on the style... that's more impressive and that is what should be rewarded.  And I think that's why we're fine with just guessing the composer.

Yeah I do wonder what would work for making guessing a composition a do-able thing...

[Brian]

Aye, I'm not sure where to strike the balance for prompting for the name . . . a good discussion, though, meseems.

I think the problem is that we keep choosing works so impossibly obscure that if we said, for instance, "Yes, that is by Kozeluch... now, what's it called?" then we'd be greeted by silence...

That's why, upon one of my more obscure go-rounds, I offered the title of the piece - Tarantella - and asked for the composer.

[Amfortas]

Amfortas confess!  Do you have trouble using audacity?  It's a complete movement (again)!  Just pm for help if you need it.

is it too long? I don't use Audacity, but I have no problem editing files. If it's too long let me know.

[DavidW]

is it too long? I don't use Audacity, but I have no problem editing files. If it's too long let me know.

Yeah the clips should be no more than about a minute long.

[karlhenning]

The thing is that awhile back Scarpia made a good point.  If you automatically recognize the piece, there's not much too it, but if you can figure it out based on the style... that's more impressive and that is what should be rewarded.  And I think that's why we're fine with just guessing the composer.

Yeah I do wonder what would work for making guessing a composition a do-able thing...

I think the problem is that we keep choosing works so impossibly obscure that if we said, for instance, "Yes, that is by Kozeluch... now, what's it called?" then we'd be greeted by silence...

That's why, upon one of my more obscure go-rounds, I offered the title of the piece - Tarantella - and asked for the composer.

Oh, I think the on-the-fly adaptation has been very sensible as well as (dare I say it?) conducive to fun . . . .

[Brian]

Ok here is one that you all may enjoy figuring out

http://www.4shared.com/audio/LER4WPqs/What_the_heck_is_this_piece.html


Composer alone will suffice 

Well, that's a weird mix of styles! The main tune sounds like something I've heard before, maybe Stravinsky on jazz. Actually what the outer sections really sound like is George Lloyd, but the central passage is even more conservative still. If it's not Lloyd (and I'm not sure he ever wrote anything that short?!), my money would be on an American in the 1920s-30s.

[Amfortas]

You're right it's not Lloyd, nor is it Stravinsky. US is the wrong country

This is a major composer of his country, the work is characteristic but not the type we immediately associate with him

[Gurn Blanston]

I think the problem is that we keep choosing works so impossibly obscure that if we said, for instance, "Yes, that is by Kozeluch... now, what's it called?" then we'd be greeted by silence...

That's why, upon one of my more obscure go-rounds, I offered the title of the piece - Tarantella - and asked for the composer.

Yeah, it's  tough choice when coming up with a clip. I mean, you don't want the opening 4 measures of Eroica, but I've got some stuff (well most of my stuff    ) that wouldn't be guessed in a year. Like the one I'm playing now. So somewhere in between. I enjoyed putting that Onslow up there  because it was hard to even pin down the period of composition, let alone the composer. I think that was a good example of a satisfactory puzzler (the fact it was mine is irrelevant, I hasten to add).

As for length of clip, my personal preference is between 1 and 1.5 minutes.




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Now playing:
Paul Simmonds (Clavichord) - Wolf Sonata #1 in F for Klavier 2nd mvmt - Adagio

[Amfortas]

Yeah, it's  tough choice when coming up with a clip. I mean, you don't want the opening 4 measures of Eroica

What can be fun, however, is a passage from the middle of a well known work, it can drive you crazy trying to figure it.  Of course you could use the opening measure of Beethoven Violin Concerto (boom, boom, boom, boom) 

I'll make my future clips briefer, since it seems to bug some of you

PS- I am going out soon for the evening, so get a few more guesses in, or we'll have to wait about 16 hours for the answer to this one

[Brian]

I enjoyed putting that Onslow up there  because it was hard to even pin down the period of composition, let alone the composer. I think that was a good example of a satisfactory puzzler (the fact it was mine is irrelevant, I hasten to add).

Indeed, that was one of my very favorites. I think that's because getting the entire ERA wrong is a real thrill, of sorts, and also because hearing a composer whose time period you can't pin down is really exciting - we were all intrigued by Onslow to find out he was writing so early but sounded later...

What can be fun, however, is a passage from the middle of a well known work, it can drive you crazy trying to figure it.

Indeed! I almost posted the least famous five seconds from a VERY famous pop-classical standard, but couldn't do so because my sound file was AAC and I don't know how to convert those to MP3.

[DavidW]

I'll make my future clips briefer, since it seems to bug some of you

Sorry to give you a hard time, it just violates Rob's rule concerning the music that we share.

[Amfortas]

Some clues: It's not Beethoven, not Bartók (no!), not Messiaen, not Britten either 

[DavidW]

Some clues: It's not Beethoven, not Bartók (no!), not Messiaen, not Britten either 

Well I figured it was someone like Milhaud.

[Amfortas]

Well I figured it was someone like Milhaud.

Not a bad guess, not French either

His country has a very sad history, if that helps

[Lethevich]

Not a bad guess, not French either

His country has a very sad history, if that helps

Don't they all But worse than most was Poland, so let's say... Tansman?