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Offline MDL

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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2011, 03:44:30 AM »
PMD is good at this stuff. I've already mentioned the balloons in Resurrection (and, btw, to the poster who mentioned being able to take anything except farting - there's a flatulence chorus in that opera, too, by which I mean a chorus advertising an anti-flatulence, not...you know... The second act, indeed, starts with the words 'Flatulence? Oh dear...').


"a fart" appears in the stage directions of Penderecki's The Devils of Loudun, but in the Hamburg CD and DVD, it's just somebody blowing a particularly enthusiastic raspberry.

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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2011, 03:53:24 AM »
"a fart" appears in the stage directions of Penderecki's The Devils of Loudun, but in the Hamburg CD and DVD, it's just somebody blowing a particularly enthusiastic raspberry.


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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2011, 04:30:23 AM »
"a fart" appears in the stage directions of Penderecki's The Devils of Loudun, but in the Hamburg CD and DVD, it's just somebody blowing a particularly enthusiastic raspberry.

I imagine that around 2200 AD some HIP-ster would come up with the real thing.  :D
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2011, 04:41:38 AM »
 :D
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2011, 08:03:02 AM »
Based on your posts .. your experience is little on all fronts! The sax has been used quite a lot in very many compositions of the modern era, so how your trying to illustrate your pt. is typically uninformed and trite.

Well, if you want to believe that the saxophone is as prominent as other woodwinds in classical music, I guess you're free to your delusions. There's a reason orchestras don't need standing bodies of saxophonists and why the string quartet is just a wee bit more prominent than sax quartet in classical music: the sax, sadly, isn't central to the tradition.
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« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2011, 08:04:36 AM »
I imagine that around 2200 AD some HIP-ster would come up with the real thing.  :D

I wouldn't doubt it... I have a HIP recording of one of Mozart's horn concertos where someone shouts out insults while they play! :D

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« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2011, 08:06:39 AM »
I imagine that around 2200 AD some HIP-ster would come up with the real thing.  :D

I can imagine a culture raised on Soylent Green consulting with an anthropologist for an HIP performance, "what are these things called 'beans' which were used to produce 'farts' in ancient music performance?"

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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2011, 08:09:37 AM »
I can imagine a culture raised on Soylent Green consulting with an anthropologist for an HIP performance, "what are these things called 'beans' which were used to produce 'farts' in ancient music performance?"

 :D ;D :D
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2011, 08:10:37 AM »
I can imagine a culture raised on Soylent Green consulting with an anthropologist for an HIP performance, "what are these things called 'beans' which were used to produce 'farts' in ancient music performance?"

The real HIP question: should the musicians fart with or without vibrato?  ;D
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2011, 08:47:48 AM »
The real HIP question: should the musicians fart with or without vibrato?  ;D
or, to quote Flanders & Swann, "flutter on your bottom"?
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2011, 12:59:27 PM »
Um yea .. your exposure is VERY narrow - see!!! Gotta get out more Graz.

Yes, what James is saying is the that  you need to go out and expose yourself  like he does.
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2011, 06:38:49 PM »
"art music" lol
 

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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2011, 02:53:22 AM »
Yes, what James is saying is the that  you need to go out and expose yourself  like he does.

"Today's top story: local man arrested for running around naked at concert hall and yelling 'Pffft' at audience members listening to Mozart. Special expert interviews with Dr. Phil and Pierre Boulez."
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2011, 07:07:35 AM »
I'd never in a million years attend a performance of Mozart. More likely to bomb the place tho.  ;D

Come now, James, even Boulez has made his peace with Mozart.

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« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2011, 07:24:35 AM »
I'd never in a million years attend a performance of Mozart. More likely to bomb the place tho.  ;D

"Update at 11: A team of FBI criminal psychologists has been flown in to evaluate the local man who runs naked through concert halls, yelling 'Pfft'. 'When the suspect freely admitted to disliking Mozart, I knew we had an extremely dangerous case on our hands,' said the lead investigator."
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2011, 05:20:09 PM »
Grazioso dont quit your job at McDonalds or whatever fast food joint you work at (if you're employed at all), because comedy is definitely not your forte.

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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2011, 03:24:16 AM »
Grazioso dont quit your job at McDonalds or whatever fast food joint you work at (if you're employed at all), because comedy is definitely not your forte.

James, as long as you keep bringing down the tone of this forum through trolling, personal insults, and spouting off about things you're ignorant of, people are going to deride your behavior.
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2011, 08:15:25 AM »
Enough thank you; no more upping the ante.

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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2011, 12:15:31 PM »
I think the trautonium has not yet been mentioned, I have a recording of Genzmer's Concerto but I can think of nothing where it is integrated with the orchestra.
edit: yes it was, on the first page.
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Re: "Weird" Instruments in Classical Music
« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2011, 05:12:12 PM »
Is synthesizer weird? John Adams used it in Nixon in China and other works.