Casey Anthony Case in Florida

Started by suzyq, May 29, 2011, 04:37:56 AM

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Bulldog

Although I think Casey is a killer, I have to admit that the evidence was thin in that the cause of death was not known and motives were not strong.

I do hope that her parents have nothing more to do with her.  Casey will likely hire an agent and start making big bucks.

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The not guilty verdict comes as a surprise to me as I was sure the prosecution had this one in the bag, but, as usual, I was wrong as there are some incredibly stupid people who live in Florida, especially the jurors on this case.

I guess it's time for Casey to make a movie and book deal and make a couple of millions now that this petty, child-murdering stuff is out of the way. ::)

Bulldog

Quote from: Mirror Image on July 05, 2011, 02:59:39 PM
The not guilty verdict comes as a surprise to me as I was sure the prosecution had this one in the bag, but, as usual, I was wrong as there are some incredibly stupid people who live in Florida, especially the jurors on this case.

The jurors did their job properly and I assume they concluded that the evidence was too weak to convict Casey of murder.  There's nothing "stupid" going on here except perhaps for your depiction of the jury.

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Anyway, yes, the jury was stupid. Have you read these juror's profiles? Many of them have committed crimes themselves. Pathetic group of people and a poor job of the prosecution in picking these jurors out. This jury is just about as stupid as the OJ Simpson trial jurors. What a bunch of complete and utter morons.

It doesn't matter what any of us think now, she's a millionaire.

ibanezmonster

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on July 05, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
Ugh, why am I reminded of OJ's acquittal back then?
I suspect there may be a guilt factor involved in both of these cases for a jury.
Think of 12 Angry Men, when it seems like part of the reason for them going softer on the kid and thinking through everything more was because he's a kid. They would feel worse if they falsely sent a kid to die than if they sent an old man.

Same thing for a young woman (not being ugly helps, too), or a football star who happens to be a minority (during a sensitive trial there). I think maybe juries in general tend to be softer if you are either female, young, famous, or a minority (or some combination).

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I've become a little bit more understanding in my opinion of this trial now. No, the prosecution didn't have much evidence and certainly couldn't prove that Casey killed her daughter, but the defense at many times in the trial were clutching at straws I think. To be honest, I think the whole family is fucked up. They're all mentally ill. In the court of law, popular opinion, which is Casey's a murderer, doesn't matter whatsoever, but what does matter is trying to link Casey to the murder, which the prosecution failed at doing. I still think the jury are completely wrong, but a trial is based on evidence and there was very little of it.

Perhaps things will backfire for Casey? This trial is pretty popular right now, but I imagine in a year or so people will have forgotten about it and moved onto the next trial.

What's truly sad is how the Anthony's have affected those lives around them. Imagine what their neighbors think? Imagine coming home to news cameras flashing and people rioting across the street. To even be around one of these family members would be enough to move to another city. I really hope Casey gets what she deserves one day...

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: Mirror Image on July 05, 2011, 09:51:40 PM
I've become a little bit more understanding in my opinion of this trial now. No, the prosecution didn't have much evidence and certainly couldn't prove that Casey killed her daughter, but the defense at many times in the trial were clutching at straws I think. To be honest, I think the whole family is fucked up. They're all mentally ill. In the court of law, popular opinion, which is Casey's a murderer, doesn't matter whatsoever, but what does matter is trying to link Casey to the murder, which the prosecution failed at doing. I still think the jury are completely wrong, but a trial is based on evidence and there was very little of it.

Perhaps things will backfire for Casey? This trial is pretty popular right now, but I imagine in a year or so people will have forgotten about it and moved onto the next trial.

What's truly sad is how the Anthony's have affected those lives around them. Imagine what their neighbors think? Imagine coming home to news cameras flashing and people rioting across the street. To even be around one of these family members would be enough to move to another city. I really hope Casey gets what she deserves one day...

Public opinion is a slow burning fire. There may have been sympathy for her in the jury but outside the protective courtroom, she won't be regaled with flowers. On the contrary, shame, even if silent, is an ever oppressive weight. And about her family, I do believe you're right. They seem like a bunch of enablers. The product of over-indulgence and excuse-making is a monster.

ZB

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Daverz

Quote from: Greg on July 05, 2011, 06:46:06 PM
Same thing for a young woman (not being ugly helps, too), or a football star who happens to be a minority (during a sensitive trial there). I think maybe juries in general tend to be softer if you are either female, young, famous, or a minority (or some combination).

Yeah, juries are always easier on minorities, especially in the South.   ::)

I haven't been following this case.  It seemed obvious that the media was pandering heavily with this one.  According to this site:

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesCAN.htm

2000 children die from abuse and neglect each year.  Congress and state legislatures are busy implementing solutions like defunding Planned Parenthood and banning abortion.



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Quote from: zamyrabyrd on July 06, 2011, 12:02:24 AM
Public opinion is a slow burning fire. There may have been sympathy for her in the jury but outside the protective courtroom, she won't be regaled with flowers. On the contrary, shame, even if silent, is an ever oppressive weight. And about her family, I do believe you're right. They seem like a bunch of enablers. The product of over-indulgence and excuse-making is a monster.

ZB

Yes, you've made a good point. I have no doubt that she'll screw up again. I believe she is stupid enough to do so. The only difference is she won't have the aid of her family this next time around.

suzyq

Casey Anthony's release date from jail is Sunday 7/17 - one of the jurors was interviewed and said that the had difficult time with their decision of
not guilty - the DA just didn't provide enough proof for them to find Casey guilty.  I'm sure that by the time you see this, you will have read/heard
the verdict.

I think Casey may have done this horrible thing, but I also think the juror made a good point.  Time will tell.

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Quote from: suzyq on July 07, 2011, 07:11:31 PM
Casey Anthony's release date from jail is Sunday 7/17 - one of the jurors was interviewed and said that the had difficult time with their decision of
not guilty - the DA just didn't provide enough proof for them to find Casey guilty.  I'm sure that by the time you see this, you will have read/heard
the verdict.

I think Casey may have done this horrible thing, but I also think the juror made a good point.  Time will tell.

Yes, I think morally the jury made the wrong decision, but realistically they made the right one and the only one that counts in the court of law. She will be a free woman in a matter of time, but there will be a backlash of cases that will happen after this and there are two that come to mind 1. Zenaida Gonzalez's defamation case and 2. the possible case of money owed to the search team who hunted for Caylee. We'll see how this pans out. I think it's going to be interesting to see how she adapts to life after this much publicized trial.

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: Mirror Image on July 07, 2011, 08:13:51 PM
Yes, I think morally the jury made the wrong decision, but realistically they made the right one and the only one that counts in the court of law. She will be a free woman in a matter of time, but there will be a backlash of cases that will happen after this and there are two that come to mind 1. Zenaida Gonzalez's defamation case and 2. the possible case of money owed to the search team who hunted for Caylee. We'll see how this pans out. I think it's going to be interesting to see how she adapts to life after this much publicized trial.

There was precious little hard evidence in the Scott Peterson case, but he was duly convicted of killing his wife and unborn son based on circumstantial considerations and his own callous behavior.

IF Caylee's death were an accident, WHY was it not reported? Furthermore, it couldn't have been a simple drowning anytime the girl had duct tape over her breathing apparatus. The "mother" was living it up for a month afterwards. Ergo, she has very much to do with it as did Scott Peterson. Pity, I was not on the jury.

ZB
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

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Quote from: zamyrabyrd on July 08, 2011, 08:21:08 AM
There was precious little hard evidence in the Scott Peterson case, but he was duly convicted of killing his wife and unborn son based on circumstantial considerations and his own callous behavior.

IF Caylee's death were an accident, WHY was it not reported? Furthermore, it couldn't have been a simple drowning anytime the girl had duct tape over her breathing apparatus. The "mother" was living it up for a month afterwards. Ergo, she has very much to do with it as did Scott Peterson. Pity, I was not on the jury.

ZB

If you were on the case, she would have still walked. ;) I really don't think this jury were very intelligent to be honest. As I stated, they couldn't "see the writing on the wall,"  but I guess what would throw anybody off is who else was in on the murder? Casey couldn't have done this by herself, right? Somebody gave her the short 30-day course on "Human Decomposition 101." Was it her Dad? Her Mom? This is what probably threw the jury off. This 30-day period is what made this case so difficult. Why 30 days? Anyway, there's still so many questions that are left unanswered. Unless somebody is honest and comes forward, we will never know what happened and everything we think is purely opinion and not fact.

It's over now, so like I said, we'll see how she adapts to society. She's going to have an unbearably tough life from this moment forward.

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Quote from: Philoctetes on July 08, 2011, 08:43:46 PM
Personally, I'm just glad that justice was served, and that people can move on and talk about something more interesting.

But justice wasn't served, Philo. Justice will never be served until the person who killed this little girl is caught.

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Quote from: Philoctetes on July 08, 2011, 09:05:51 PM
No. Justice was served in this case. You're talking about a completely different case.

I'm talking about the Casey Anthony case. In this case, justice wasn't served.

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Quote from: Philoctetes on July 08, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
No. You're talking about a different case. This case was resolved.

???

You don't understand what I'm talking about, so just forget it, I might as well be talking to a brick wall...



suzyq

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Unfortunately there a many cases involving children that go unsolved or end as Casey's did.

This case was in the public eye - it's just tragic - there is never a reason to harm a child. 


If there are lawyers out there, maybe you can explain why all the information that was availble to the viewing public was
kept from the Jury.  If the Jury had most of what was available to us, maybe it would have made a difference in their
decision. 

snyprrr


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Quote from: suzyq on July 09, 2011, 05:49:06 AMIf there are lawyers out there, maybe you can explain why all the information that was availble to the viewing public was
kept from the Jury.  If the Jury had most of what was available to us, maybe it would have made a difference in their
decision.

I seriously doubt it. That jury, in my opinion, was "pro-Casey" since the trial began. Anyway, who gives a shit now? It's over. That ship has sailed. When the jury read "not guilty," I turned the channel in complete dismay. I'm over it now.