Where are the Schnittke cadenzas in Kremer's Beethoven Violin Cto?

[CRCulver]

I've got Kremer's recording of the Beethoven violin concerto with the Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields cond. Marriner on my hard drive, can't remember if I ripped it from the city library or downloaded it somewhere. Now, this is supposed to be the recording with Schnittke's cadenzas, is it not? If it is, could someone please give me exact timings for where the cadenzas appear? Because after repeated hearings I still can't distinguish any sudden, crazy modernist movements that would cause concertgoers walk out and CD buyers to demand refunds, like the legends I've heard.

Granted, I know little of Beethoven's work and this is one of the first pieces by him that I've tried to appreciate -- my tastes usually run to 20th century modernism. Perhaps Schnittke's addition is obvious to mainstream classical fans, but I need some help here.

[bhodges]

There are two cadenzas, in the first and third movements. I have heard the concerto live once (just recently) but have not heard the Kremer recording yet. Sorry I don't have the timings, but I did find the cadenzas snipped out on YouTube, which may help:

Movement I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGRKUl4TrJU

Movement III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdMgTt4D-C8

PS, here's my review of the concert last February, with Lisa Batiashvili in the concerto:

http://www.musicweb-international.com/sandh/2011/Jan-Jun11/vanska2802.htm

--Bruce

[jochanaan]

There are two cadenzas, in the first and third movements...

There is also space for a cadenza between the second and third movements; however, I have heard some recent recordings of this concerto with no cadenza, just the trill and six odd notes that Beethoven wrote.  I don't get that!  Violinists of the time would have seized any opportunity the composer gave them to improvise, and probably lots that s/he didn't give them.