Clichés

Started by Coco, June 03, 2011, 12:31:04 PM

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Coco

Boulez - "intellectual"

French music - "elegant"

Celibidache - "loooooooooooooooong"

"shimmering orchestration"

British music - "pastoral"

German music - "heavy"

Stockhausen - "wacko"

Mn Dave

Coco - "Awesome!"  :D

Lethevich

Spiritual
Ritualistic
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

DavidW

"magnificently sublime" oh wait that's my fault! :D

Coco

Quote from: Mn Dave on June 03, 2011, 12:32:52 PM
Coco - "Awesome!"  :D

Clichés often do derive in part from a truth. ;D

Quote from: DavidW on June 03, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
"magnificently sublime" oh wait that's my fault! :D

How about "sublimely magnificent"?

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Coco on June 03, 2011, 12:31:04 PM
Celibidache - "loooooooooooooooong"

That's a rather too personal observation.
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Coco

Well I'm not saying that's how I feel but...

ohhh... :D

Coco

Messiaen - synaesthesia
Barraqué - gay, Foucault
Babbitt - mathematician

DavidW

Quote from: Coco on June 03, 2011, 12:52:46 PM
How about "sublimely magnificent"?

Ah there we go!  I'll try it on for size...

Beethoven's Archduke Trio is sublimely magnificent!

Why that works marvelously! :)

DavidW

Quote from: Coco on June 03, 2011, 12:56:22 PM
Messiaen - synaesthesia
Barraqué - gay, Foucault
Babbitt - mathematician

That's what all add for all difficult 20th century works "mathematical" arg!!  And I'm sure some Bachians are tired of hearing that some of those works are "too formal".

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: DavidW on June 03, 2011, 12:56:47 PM
Ah there we go!  I'll try it on for size...

Beethoven's Archduke Trio is sublimely magnificent!

Why that works marvelously! :)

Geez, where have I seen that before... Hmmm... :D

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Coco

on any young performer - "merely correct performances, maybe he/she will get better with time — I prefer Old Standard" etc

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Coco on June 03, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
Well I'm not saying that's how I feel but...

ohhh... :D

;D :D ;D
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

DavidW

Quote from: Leon on June 03, 2011, 01:37:11 PM
Regarding atonal works in general, they are described as

dense
difficult
thorny
spiky

And others I am forgetting

I'll add angular to that list, which depending on context refers to poly-rhythmic music, or dissonance or atonality, or critic's word for "yuck!" :D

Scarpia

Quote from: DavidW on June 03, 2011, 02:52:03 PM
I'll add angular to that list, which depending on context refers to poly-rhythmic music, or dissonance or atonality, or critic's word for "yuck!" :D

In my lexicon "angular" is good.   :)

Coco

Shostakovich - oppressed
Pärt - mystical

Coco

Takemitsu - "Zen calm"

Sergeant Rock

#17
"Lets the music speak for itself"...usually said of boring British conductors, with admiration by British critics  :D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Coco on June 03, 2011, 03:13:05 PM
Takemitsu - "Zen calm"
This is a good description, but I don't hear it being used all the time. It's also a good description for Feldman.

Coco

#19
Quote from: Greg on June 03, 2011, 03:19:39 PM
This is a good description, but I don't hear it being used all the time. It's also a good description for Feldman.

It might be accurate but the echt-Japan/rock gardens/waterfalls imagery with regard to Takemitsu is played out.