Male-Female friendships

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AllegroVivace

Quote from: snyprrr on July 10, 2011, 08:59:53 AM
Chopin's Funeral March


Currently, I'm so hungry I'll eat anything to survive,... but there are no crumbs even oh please snyprrr ::) give it a rest :-* read a book ;)

I know this pretty much means it's impossible to have any female friends, since we're guaranteed to be hungry enough for just
about enough anything... It's a sad cometary about men, I know... but we're hard-wired to continuously look for sex. This was mother nature's way of ensuring that we pass on our genes, but we've learned how to take advantage of the pleasure reward...

One thing that has always puzzled me is why it's no difficult (if not impassive) to have sex AND be friends with the same woman.
Richard

eyeresist

Quote from: Leon on July 08, 2011, 08:27:20 AM
I am bothered by the focus on physical beauty (which is subjective anyway).  I am much more interested in what is inside a person than their outsides.  If I were to give anyone advice about finding and keeping love it would be to not let physical first impressions pose an obstacle to getting to know someone who may be a fantastic person.  Looks will change but a person's character is what you live with on a daily basis and is what will determine the quality of the relationship in more important ways than looks.

And one more thing - it cannot be overstated that YOU have to be be the right person, i.e. unselfish, with an optimistic outlook.  Don't be so critical of other people and focus on your own flaws and try to improve yourself.

So YOU have to be perfect, but SHE doesn't have to be :)

Regarding physical impressions, it is important that your tastes not be too narrow. I like all sorts of things physically (some of them mutually exclusive), which expands my potential dating pool. But, if I may offer some advice from my own experience, do NOT have sex with someone you don't find attractive, whether from convenience or feeling of obligation. Nor should you have sex with someone you dislike (sometimes Mr Happy keeps you from noticing how much you can't stand that pretty girl's personality). Both of these are the route to misery.

Lethevich

Quote from: eyeresist on July 10, 2011, 06:42:53 PM
Nor should you have sex with someone you dislike (sometimes Mr Happy keeps you from noticing how much you can't stand that pretty girl's personality). Both of these are the route to misery.

I've heard that angry sex can be pretty awesome ;)
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

eyeresist

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on July 10, 2011, 06:47:43 PM
I've heard that angry sex can be pretty awesome ;)

Appeals to me about as much as angry eating.

DavidRoss

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on July 10, 2011, 06:47:43 PM
I've heard that angry sex can be pretty awesome ;)
Indeed.  And we get angriest at those we love most.

BTW, make up sex can be pretty awesome, too.
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

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Brian

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on July 10, 2011, 06:23:29 AM
Thanks...  ;D :D ;D

Once upon a time I did write a  memoir about 1968, the year that utterly changed my life. It was for my parents who had, thirty years after the fact, finally asked me why I'd quit university. I began 1968 an English literature major, in a serious relationship with a woman I was sure I'd marry, and ended the year--after knowing eight remarkable women--alone, a college dropout, volunteering to be an armored cavalry scout. The story has some unbelievable plot twists that seem more like fate than coincidence. Unfortunately (or not ;D ) the 120 pages were lost when my first DOS computer suddenly died.

Sarge

Well, I count it unfortunate! You'd better get cracking on that rewrite ;)
(And we can arrange with Mr. Knopf for a few glossy pages in the center for photos of Mrs. Rock  ;D )

Brian

Quote from: AllegroVivace on July 10, 2011, 07:03:33 AMI have become friendly with a few women over the years but it never lasted, and always for the same reason: at some point you want to see them naked... And it all collapses like a house of cards. The next day you can't look in their eyes. You don't call them, they don't call you... It's basically a dead end.

The bottom line is if you are sexually attracted to her, you can't be friends. One day you're going to make a move and it will be all over.

I do agree with your bottom line. If you are sexually attracted to her(/him), you're gonna screw it up.
However, I have noticed that a clear majority of my close friends are attractive females. So somehow I'm managing not to screw it up - but I think the key difference is that, while I feel a slight tinge of excitement hanging out with a close friend and knowing she's very pretty, I'm logical enough about friendship and in tight enough control of my passions [actually, I'm not sure I even believe in the idea of "passions" in this context] that I don't ever actually lust after her. The lone exception, a friend whom I do kinda have the hots for, is also the most tenuous friendship - although that's because she's an inaccessible flake, and maybe my attraction is fueled by her unavailability.

Speaking of unavailability, almost all my best female friends are in long-term relationships with other men.

AllegroVivace

Quote from: Brian on July 11, 2011, 03:13:22 AM
Speaking of unavailability, almost all my best female friends are in long-term relationships with other men.

You can go ahead and call them friends, but when their relationships break up and they call you to ask you to go over to them so they can cry and let their emotions out, you're going to stop by at a gas station, on the way, to pick up that extra-thin Durex.

Richard

eyeresist

Quote from: AllegroVivace on July 11, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
You can go ahead and call them friends, but when their relationships break up and they call you to ask you to go over to them so they can cry and let their emotions out, you're going to stop by at a gas station, on the way, to pick up that extra-thin Durex.

Extra-LARGE  ::)

Brian

Quote from: AllegroVivace on July 11, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
You can go ahead and call them friends, but when their relationships break up and they call you to ask you to go over to them so they can cry and let their emotions out, you're going to stop by at a gas station, on the way, to pick up that extra-thin Durex.

No, no, be it extra-thin or extra-large, I don't think I would do that.

snyprrr

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on July 10, 2011, 06:47:43 PM
I've heard that angry sex can be pretty awesome ;)

That post, next to that ogling pic of Shosty,... haha, priceless.

yes, the proverbial 'grudge f***'

Coco