5 Favourite Shostakovich Symphonies - poll

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What are your (can pick up to 5) favourite Shostakovich symphonies, currently?

1 in F minor, Op.10
2 in B major, Op.14
3 in E flat major, Op.20
4 in C minor, Op.43
5 in D minor, Op.47
6 in B minor, Op.54
7 in C major, Op.60 'Leningrad'
8 in C minor, Op.65
9 in E flat major, Op.70
10 in E minor, Op.93
11 in G minor, Op.103 'The Year 1905'
12 in D minor, Op.112 'The Year 1917 - To the memory of Lenin'
13 in B flat minor, Op.113 'Babi Yar'
14 - Op.135
15 in A major, Op.141

Guido

Is anyone not going to choose 10? Can't believe how many people don't like 1, I reckon it's one of the best.
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: madaboutmahler on September 05, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
hmmm.... wasn't that his 2nd symphony though?
Daniel


No. Shostakovich used music from the film for his Twelfth. Just listen...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Guido on September 05, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
Is anyone not going to choose 10? Can't believe how many people don't like 1, I reckon it's one of the best.


I voted for both 1 and 10.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Guido on September 05, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
Is anyone not going to choose 10?




I love parts of 10 but other parts bore me to death (much like 7).

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

madaboutmahler

Quote from: ChamberNut on September 05, 2011, 01:07:59 PM
Daniel - I did vote for the 12th.   :)

Thank you Ray! :)

Quote from: Guido on September 05, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
Is anyone not going to choose 1? Can't believe how many people don't like 1, I reckon it's one of the best.
I do love no.1, that would have been my 6th vote ;) The ending of the finale in particular is excellent!
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

karlhenning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 05, 2011, 01:18:58 PM
I love parts of 10 but other parts bore me to death (much like 7).

Ouch! (We can still be mates, though, Sarge.)

not edward

4/14/15.

This has been my answer to this question for the best part of 20 years now, so I guess my preferences on the matter are set.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

eyeresist

Quote from: madaboutmahler on September 05, 2011, 12:50:02 PM
Cannot believe that no.12 has so few votes! What does everyone have against this symphony?! I think it's one of the most thrilling of the lot! :)

There are a couple of problems with 12. First, its thematic material is fairly limited for such a long work (it's basically the same two themes throughout). More problematic is the second half of the finale, which is repetitious to the point of banality. I think it could be made to work, but haven't heard it done yet.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: eyeresist on September 05, 2011, 07:36:02 PM
There are a couple of problems with 12. First, its thematic material is fairly limited for such a long work (it's basically the same two themes throughout). More problematic is the second half of the finale, which is repetitious to the point of banality. I think it could be made to work, but haven't heard it done yet.


The music works for the film, but not as a symphony, I agree.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

karlhenning

These days, I like Twelve as much as I've ever done, I suppose. Still, for me, that would never elbow its place into my own Top Five.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 05, 2011, 02:41:25 PM
Ouch! (We can still be mates, though, Sarge.)

I acknowledge there is something wrong with me. The 10th is the most popular (here anyway) so obviously the problem is me. I'm glad you can overlook my severe character flaw, Karl  ;)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

karlhenning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 06, 2011, 04:13:46 AM
I acknowledge there is something wrong with me. The 10th is the most popular (here anyway) so obviously the problem is me. I'm glad you can overlook my severe character flaw, Karl  ;)

I have been hooked on Ten (as I've probably said ere now) since my Wooster days, when Simon Rattle (not yet knighted) led the Clevelanders in the piece at McGaw Chapel. The symphony, every measure, fixed me with its glittering eye . . . .

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 06, 2011, 04:14:20 AM
You, me, Erato...Brothers in Shostakovich  8)

Two of my votes went to Four & Fifteen. Another day, I'd vote for Fourteen, two.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 06, 2011, 04:29:10 AM
Two of my votes went to Four & Fifteen. Another day, I'd vote for Fourteen, two.

Actually the only Shosty symphonies I don't enjoy completely are 7 and 10 (and I don't actually dislike either...they just try my patience). Even the Third, that unloved bastard, gives me pleasure. This kind of poll doesn't reflect my true feelings about the composer. It's fun but misleading.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Brahmsian

I'm still having problems with my enjoyment of the 4th.  I'm finding it overly complex, clamorous and cacaphonous, jarring, alarming - even for me.  I can't quite put it all together in my mind yet.

**This isn't a cry for help - I had similar issues before for a long time with Mahler's 7th symphony, which now happens to be my second favorite Mahler symphony.   :)

As the old saying goes, 'It's not you, it's me'.  ;D

Brahmsian

Quote from: eyeresist on September 05, 2011, 07:36:02 PM
There are a couple of problems with 12. First, its thematic material is fairly limited for such a long work (it's basically the same two themes throughout). More problematic is the second half of the finale, which is repetitious to the point of banality. I think it could be made to work, but haven't heard it done yet.

Maybe that is why I like it so much.  It is kind of 'a la Bruckner mode'.   :D

Guido

Quote from: ChamberNut on September 06, 2011, 05:33:38 AM
Maybe that is why I like it so much.  It is kind of 'a la Bruckner mode'.   :D

Bruckner is never guilty of the extreme lapeses that Shostakovich allows himself here. It's just awful.
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away


J.Z. Herrenberg

I think RVW's Antarctica is the prime example of how to transform a film score into a symphony. I watched October again last night - as I said, the music is excellent and works really well. But too much of it goes verbatim into the symphony, including all the repetition that has to underpin the film - without images, the repetition becomes nonsensical.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on July 21, 2011, 08:20:43 PM
I've always considered DSCH's 15th to be a great piece, then I saw it performed live and I was blown away, I now consider it my personal favorite symphony of his. Such an interesting structure, and one of the greatest endings.

Top is 15, and then in random order, 5, 10, 11, & 14.


Am I allowed to quote myself?  ;D