Started by zamyrabyrd, July 26, 2011, 07:22:58 AM
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Quote from: zamyrabyrd on July 26, 2011, 07:22:58 AMI thought there was a Lorraine Hunt-Lieberson thread but couldn't find it here. Maybe it is in the old GMG. So hope it is OK to post this here. Anyway, the subject came up yesterday about male poets and composers, so I gave the FLL as an example and went straightaways to youtube to find some links for her to listen to. What a revelation to have found Lieberson in this cycle! Other vocalists sing this work, even well, but they don't LIVE it. I don't prefer sopranos either but as much as Della Casa may be fine for instance or others, this recording is on a totally different level. The pianist, Julius Drake is also very sensitive to the fine nuances.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RzxRcSPFx4&feature=relatedSome don't like the very slow tempo for the last song, but it captures so much the first hurt after all the previous exuberance, as though she were immobilized in shock.ZB
Quote from: Tsaraslondon on July 28, 2011, 03:09:43 AMMaybe there ought to be a Hunt Lieberson thread. She certainly deserves one. As Mike says, she makes everything she sings so new and so personal. I was first aware of her in a TV Proms broadcast, singing Elgar's Sea Pictures, and was totally bowled over by her radiance and her natural way with the text. Till then Janet Baker's performances (both the studio Barbirolli and the occasions I had heard her sing it live) had spoiled me for all others, but here at last was a singer who could bring those songs newly to life. They are not easy to get right. The last performance I heard (I won't say who it was because I'm not sure) was dead as ditchwater!Here too, in the Schumann, Hunt Lieberson communicates so much so naturally, as if the words had newly sprung from her lips. This is a gift vouchsafed to few. Baker had it; so too did Callas. Amongst contemporary singers, David Daniels is one of the singers who springs to mind. Hunt Lieberson was indeed very special.
Quote from: Mandryka on July 28, 2011, 11:00:55 PMAre you sure you don't mean Music Makers? The proms database shows no record of her singing Sea PicturesHere's the Music Makershttp://www.youtube.com/v/2MsE0WtQVhMAgreed, BTW, about the Wigmore Hall Frauenliebe und Leben
Quote from: Mandryka on July 28, 2011, 11:00:55 PMHere's the Music Makershttp://www.youtube.com/v/2MsE0WtQVhM
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on July 29, 2011, 01:41:15 AMThis is simply stunning!!! The words to the complete poem can be found here (usually it is truncated to three verses): http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-281108.htmlYou shall teach us your songs new numbers,and things that we dreamed not before:Yea, in spite of a dreamer who slumbersand a singer who sings no more.
Quote from: knight66 on August 01, 2011, 09:26:09 AM'Hate' is of course use pejoratively; but that kind of remark about Baker's singing certainly makes me wonder about your ears. I have often said that people hear the same voice differently, but you are in a minority of one on your opinion not just here; but in terms of endless reviews I have encountered on Baker over 30 years. Your idea is a new one on me. I learned how to colour words by listening to her. Many singers leave off expressive singing where she starts.Mike
Quote from: Harry Powell on August 01, 2011, 06:18:19 PMI tend to agree with zamyrabyrd about Baker's singing. I think the reasons for her lack of colours were technical. A soprano who couldn't find the right placement on the upper range, she had to cope with low mezzo tessituras where her voice didn't have the required timbre (a matter of fullness and vibrations). I have further doubts about her breadth support and, accordingly, her ability to invest her singing with true modulations. She might have had verbal acuity, but the real variety of colors and intensities comes from the messa di voce. Italian critics have been very indifferent to her Mozart singing, if it serves as another example.
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