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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1300 on: October 12, 2019, 12:42:32 AM »
You know, moderators, suddenly discovering that I've been made part of a thread I never posted on is bloody irritating.

Especially for a conversation that had ended as far as I was concerned. Indeed, it had ended for everyone. A day later, up pops this series of posts on a thread none of us actually posted on, in the list of "new replies".

Could you not just TELL people where you want conversations to be carried out instead of having this penchant for fucking rewriting history?
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1301 on: October 12, 2019, 02:41:48 AM »
I mean, there was a reason why I posted in that thread what you've decided to move here. It was actually following on from previous things posted in that thread, not this one.

No consultation, no discussion, nothing. Just some moderator coming along days later and deciding that "moderating" consists of moving stuff around because... what? Was the thread derailed? No. Because the thread had happily carried on in its normal course. It was just a fucking power trip of some kind.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1302 on: October 12, 2019, 02:53:42 AM »
Because, you see, you didn't move this or the 5 messages that followed it, or this or this or this and the posts following.

You didn't decide to move this or the following 2 posts either.

And of course you didn't move the original posts where I shared what I was buying. Starting here.

No, you just moved the 4th and final part of a 4-part narrative because you apparently think I'm too stupid to make an appropriate decision about which thread to post in.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1303 on: October 12, 2019, 09:21:28 AM »
Just a correction re jpd packaging. They don't use "styrofoam and plastic," but an organic material that dissolves in water. See for yourself by placing it under a hot water tap.

It’s made of corn, same as cheese puffs (without the flavouring and the dye). It’s actually edible, although not manufactured for human consumption. The only inconvenient is that they’re so light they tend to fall in all directions.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1304 on: January 19, 2020, 07:39:32 PM »
Has Europadisc been down all day for everyone else? I hope they don't pull an MDT - I had $7 in store credit...

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« Reply #1305 on: January 19, 2020, 09:02:17 PM »
Has Europadisc been down all day for everyone else? I hope they don't pull an MDT - I had $7 in store credit...
I am worried as well. The online options are shrinking..... Hope it is only a technical glitch.

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« Reply #1306 on: January 19, 2020, 09:30:46 PM »
I am worried as well. The online options are shrinking..... Hope it is only a technical glitch.
The number of retailers is shrinking too quickly. In Europe you have JPC and Presto; here we have the somewhat untrustworthy Import CDs; and everywhere the all-consuming beast that is Amazon. Amazon is devouring the competition...which is a pity because its prices on classical CDs are rarely competitive.

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« Reply #1307 on: January 19, 2020, 09:59:38 PM »
Has Europadisc been down all day for everyone else? I hope they don't pull an MDT - I had $7 in store credit...

...and Crotchet.co.uk before them..

I still remember some of the defunct online vendors I used to buy from, cdworld.com, cdnow.com.

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« Reply #1308 on: January 19, 2020, 10:39:03 PM »
Amazon is devouring the competition...which is a pity because its prices on classical CDs are rarely competitive.

At least amazon marketplace sellers can be competitive.

I never had any problem with importcds.com.  Berkshire record outlet has risen from the ashes. I used to send them big orders but not for a long time.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1309 on: January 20, 2020, 01:25:54 AM »
eBay is now superior to Amazon. There are businesses that operate off there very nicely.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1310 on: January 20, 2020, 01:35:40 AM »
My experience is that when it comes to books, music and indeed electronics,  Amazon is rather good and often competitive.

Amazon prime is interesting because it provides some assurance about delivery timescales, I’m often prepared to pay a premium for that, though maybe less so for CDs than for other items.


Clearly amazon downloads and streaming is utter shit.


On the other hand, in my experience eBay customer service is impeccable, and I greatly value PayPal buyer protection. I feel totally confident about buying items for many thousands of pounds from eBay, I know that if there’s a problem PayPal will support me. Unfortunately PayPal is about to be replaced . . . I haven’t explored the buyer protection policies which will then be applied.

Both amazon and eBay seem infinitely superior to any physical store, easier and safer to deal with, and often better value for money. If I have a problem with an item in a bricks and mortar store I may have to take the store to court, which is boring and time consuming and incurs a cost and is uncertain (will the courts be able to recover?) . . . All that just doesn’t need to happen with PayPal.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1311 on: January 20, 2020, 01:55:50 AM »
Europadisc up and running.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1312 on: January 20, 2020, 07:50:33 AM »
Perhaps those of us wanting to have our own copies rather than monthly subscriptions will end up buying FLACs etc. from the individual record labels and distributors like Amazon will be cut out.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1313 on: January 20, 2020, 10:43:00 AM »
The number of retailers is shrinking too quickly. In Europe you have JPC and Presto; here we have the somewhat untrustworthy Import CDs; and everywhere the all-consuming beast that is Amazon. Amazon is devouring the competition...which is a pity because its prices on classical CDs are rarely never competitive.

Now that I rarely buy a CD, I do most of my business (FLAC downloads with PDF booklet) with Presto. Actually, Chandos' own website is very good too, most single 'disks' are 9.99 GBP, and unlike Presto, they rarely don't have the booklet. Lack of a booklet is a deal breaker for me pretty much. They don't lack the balls to charge you full price, but they don't provide full value. >:(

Fixed your quote above, Brian...

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1314 on: January 20, 2020, 10:46:32 AM »
They don't lack the balls to charge you full price, but they don't provide full value. >:(

This is why I also like eClassical's model of charging different prices for different lengths of album (and they always have booklets).

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1315 on: January 20, 2020, 11:02:32 AM »


eclassical want to charge $20 for this CD -- CD quality mp3 -- no booklet I bet. Qobuz charge £12 for FLAC.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1316 on: January 20, 2020, 11:30:38 AM »
This is why I also like eClassical's model of charging different prices for different lengths of album (and they always have booklets).

Yes, I also buy from them. They seem fair and square. They don't have everything I want, but then, no one else does either. They have BIS though, one of my favorite labels. They even ripped a disk for me once that they didn't have as a download, which I thought was a nice gesture. :)

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1317 on: January 20, 2020, 11:38:35 AM »
The number of retailers is shrinking too quickly. In Europe you have JPC and Presto; here we have the somewhat untrustworthy Import CDs; and everywhere the all-consuming beast that is Amazon. Amazon is devouring the competition...which is a pity because its prices on classical CDs are rarely competitive.

Arkivmusic has gone back to being reliable, but their prices are often not competitive.  Amszon MP is usually reliable and competitively priced on new stuff, and on some things Amazon itself can be the lowest price, but their shipping is not always the best.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1318 on: January 20, 2020, 12:16:10 PM »
eBay is now superior to Amazon. There are businesses that operate off there very nicely.
eBay sellers are frustrating in the sense that when the item price is low, the shipping is high and vice versa. Oh, the CD is only 5 €, but the shipping is 10 € or the CD is 13 € and the shipping just 2 €. So you pay 15 € anyway. :P

Amazon (all of them: US, UK, DE,...) has had red text "This item does not ship to Finland" now for a week on almost all products, but people say it doesn't mean anything and ordering to Finland works as before so it can be ignored. The first time I saw it I almost got a heart attack and thought it's Amazon.co.uk prepairing to the Brexit. On a Finnish discussion board somebody told he had contacted the customer service about this, but only got a "generic" nonsense answer. They are completely indifferent in the firm.  ::)
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #1319 on: January 20, 2020, 12:46:03 PM »
Arkivmusic has gone back to being reliable, but their prices are often not competitive.  Amszon MP is usually reliable and competitively priced on new stuff, and on some things Amazon itself can be the lowest price, but their shipping is not always the best.

Well, I have Prime, so shipping is a non-issue. It's just that their base prices are nearly always full manufacturer's suggested retail (I don't know about non-Classical). Oddly enough, if I'm not in any rush, which I am usually not, I can often find what I want at a great price from the Marketplace vendor Momox, which is in Germany. Their shipping is usually quick (for overseas, that is) and their quality is always better than what they say. So if it is listed 'Very Good', usually it is really 'Like New'. I have ordered ~100 disks from them over the years and never been unhappy.

Even when you are trying to avoid buying CD's by getting flac downloads, there are some things where that just isn't going to happen. :-\

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