The greatest Richard Strauss tone poems not written by Richard Strauss?

Started by eyeresist, September 11, 2011, 02:02:58 AM

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eyeresist

Someone in another thread recently suggested Elgar's In the South (Alassio).

Vaughan Williams' Sinfonia Antartica might also fit this category.

Any other suggestions?


The LIST: (why not?)

Bartok: Kossuth
Bax: Overture to a Picaresque Comedy
Bax: Tintagel
Brian: Doctor Merryheart
Delius: Paris
Elgar: In the South (Alassio)
Elgar: Falstaff
Gliere: Symphony no. 3
Janacek: Taras Bulba
Karlowicz: Stanislaw and Anna
Novak: In the Tatra Mountains
Novak: Lady Godiva
Reznicek: Schlemihl
Schoenberg: Pelleas und Melisande
Suk: A Summer's Tale
Suk: Ripening
Suk: Epilogue
Szymanowski: Concert Overture
Szymanowski: Symphony No. 2
Vaughan Williams: Symphony No. 7 "Sinfonia Antartica"
Webern: Im Sommerwind
Zemlinsky: Die Seejungfrau (The Mermaid)

J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Grazioso

Zemlinsky Die Seejungfrau (The Mermaid)
Novak Lady Godiva or In the Tatra Mountains (a bit of that Alpine Symphony vibe)
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Archaic Torso of Apollo

I nominate Elgar's Falstaff; it's almost like his answer to Strauss' Don Quixote (personality portrait of a literary character, both characters created at approximately the same time, around 1600).
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J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Velimir on September 11, 2011, 06:17:41 AM
I nominate Elgar's Falstaff; it's almost like his answer to Strauss' Don Quixote (personality portrait of a literary character, both characters created at approximately the same time, around 1600).


Brian, Doctor Merryheart, a funny Strauss-meets-Elgar tone poem about a character of Brian's own invention (detailed programme notes exist).
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Daverz

Reznicek's Schlemihl, though Reznicek himself was more of a schlimazel.

Mirror Image


Mirror Image

An obvious choice: Webern's Im Sommerwind

A more obscure choice: Szymanowski's Concert Overture

not edward

I'll second Die Seejungfrau and Falstaff.

Add Szymanowski's 2nd symphony if we can overlook it being in two movements. :)
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hafod


Bax: There are quite few to chose from but I will go for Tintagel.

eyeresist

I have made a List of all suggestion in the original post.

Re Bax, I don't know how Straussian Tintagel actually is. I'd say the obvious candidate is the Overture to a Picaresque Overture. Thoughts on this?

listener

GLIÈRE  Symphony no. 3   'Ilya Murometz'  and JANÁCEK  Taras Bulba
more than one movement each, but all of the movements have narrative programs.
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Daverz

Quote from: eyeresist on September 11, 2011, 05:38:02 PM
I have made a List of all suggestion in the original post.

Re Bax, I don't know how Straussian Tintagel actually is.

I do!  I do!  Not Straussian in the least!  Whado I win?

The same goes for Ilya Murometz and Taras Bulba.




eyeresist


Well, once the list fills up, we can have another thread to vote them down again :)

Brian

I clicked on this thread thinking Rob Newman had made an exciting new discovery.

eyeresist

LOL!!!


EDIT: Okay, we're not allowed to do lolposts? Then I will add something else... All my posts are written by a secret committee of freemasons, in order to bring about the dreaded ZOG.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Brian on September 11, 2011, 08:28:47 PM
I clicked on this thread thinking Rob Newman had made an exciting new discovery.


Quote from: eyeresist on September 11, 2011, 08:29:30 PM
LOL!!!


EDIT: Okay, we're not allowed to do lolposts? Then I will add something else... All my posts are written by a secret committee of freemasons, in order to bring about the dreaded ZOG.


;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

mc ukrneal

How can this be? Dvorak and Smetana, perhaps the other two greatest tone poem composers ever, are not even MENTIONED! 1 whip with a wet noodle for all of you!  :o
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eyeresist

Quote from: mc ukrneal on September 12, 2011, 12:39:53 AM
How can this be? Dvorak and Smetana, perhaps the other two greatest tone poem composers ever, are not even MENTIONED!

As much as I love both of them, are they Straussian?

And what exactly do we mean by that?