Your Top 5 Mahler Movements - Poll!

[springrite]

Good choices. (If I may say so.)
And I share your feelings about 'Der Abschied'.

Can we send in a petition to change the rules? Can we? Huh?

[North Star]

Yep.

And you know what: who knows what kinds of expierences may lie ahead, with 8 (or 9) symphonies yet to discover.

Absolutely, I'll be buying a cycle (probably Bertini) in summer, and explore. It'll have to wait for a while since they are no small pieces. I have heard the 1st live and know the Fifth quite well, even though I haven't been listening to it lately.

[Marc]

Can we send in a petition to change the rules? Can we? Huh?

Huh?

Yeah, make it a Top 10 Mahler Movements poll, including Das Lied von der Erde.
And then start all over again.

There's an embarrassing lack of Mahler threads on this board!

[Marc]

Absolutely, I'll be buying a cycle (probably Bertini) in summer, and explore. It'll have to wait for a while since they are no small pieces. I have heard the 1st live and know the Fifth quite well, even though I haven't been listening to it lately.

Bertini's a very good choice IMO.

[Brahmsian]

Tough to pick just 5, but currently here they are:

S2 - Final mvt.

S3 - Final mvt.

S5 - Adagietto

S6 - Andante moderato

S9 - Final mvt.

[ibanezmonster]

Symphony No. 9 - movement I - for all the love that the finale of No.9 gets, some of that love must be given to the road that brought our emotions to this point. It's sad, it's optimistic, it's ethereal, it's Mahler. Dare I say the best of the best?

If I had to judge everything thing by "absolute quality" (whatever that is), I would choose this movement to be the "best" thing ever written, even though the last movement is my favorite.

[madaboutmahler]

Huh?

Yeah, make it a Top 10 Mahler Movements poll, including Das Lied von der Erde.
And then start all over again.

There's an embarrassing lack of Mahler threads on this board!

Sorry for the wait, the new poll has now been created, with 10 votes being the limit and Das Lied in the options!
Please all get voting!

[San Antone]

I am bumping this thread because I was just thinking of this question.

I voted for for "Der Abscheid" from Das Lied von der Erde without realizing I could have voted four more times.   

And I am not ashamed to admit loving the Adagietto from the 5th.   0:)

1st of the 9th and Adagio from 10th also are on my list.  But there are some suggestions in this thread that I will now go and hunt up, e.g. Symphony No. 4 - movement III

[Wanderer]

Symphony No. 2: III (In ruhig fließender Bewegung)

Symphony No. 6: II (Andante moderato)

Symphony No. 8: II. Teil: Schlußszene aus Goethes "Faust II"

Symphony No. 9: III (Rondo - Burleske: Allegro assai. Sehr trotzig)

Symphony No. 10: I (Andante - Adagio)



Backup choices:

Symphony No. 1: IV (Stürmisch bewegt)
Symphony No. 2: I (Allegro maestoso. Mit durchaus ernstem und feierlichem Ausdruck)
Symphony No. 2: V (Im Tempo des Scherzos)
Symphony No. 3: VI (Langsam. Ruhevoll. Empfunden)
Symphony No. 8: I. Teil: Hymnus "Veni, creator spiritus"
Symphony No. 9: I (Andante comodo)
Symphony No. 10: II (Scherzo I)
Symphony No. 10: III (Purgatorio)
Das Lied von der Erde: VI (Der Abschied)

[Autumn Leaves]

Didn't have to think about this one too much:

#2 - 3rd Movement
#5 - 4th Movement
#6 - 3rd Movement (Andante)
#7 - 1st Movement
#9 - 1st Movement

[Jo498]

The 3 first choices are clear for me: outer movements of #9 and "Der Abschied". After this there are too many; not to focus entirely on late pieces I picked 6,i and 5,iii. But the rest of #9, #10 adagio, #2,i, #4,iii or #6 andante would also have been good options.

[springrite]

#1: 3rd;
#2: 1st;
#6: 1st;
#6: 4th;
#9: 1st.

[Drasko]

9:I - 10:I - 4:I - 4:III - 1:III

[Reckoner]

So many options, yet the finale of the 10th is excluded. 

[arpeggio]

Another poll where I can not just pick five.

[Maestro267]

Yes, the other four movements of Mahler 10 should be included here, if the Adagio is going to be. The work is standard repertoire in its five-movement form now. It's all or nothing.

However, for the purposes of this I have picked:

No. 2: V
No. 3: I
No. 5: III
No. 6: IV
No. 8: II

Another fascinating side point is to imagine your five choices as one symphony in five movements. Mine would be of enormous length!  (35 + 35 + 20 + 30 + 55 = 175 minutes)

[Reckoner]

Yes, the other four movements of Mahler 10 should be included here, if the Adagio is going to be. The work is standard repertoire in its five-movement form now. It's all or nothing.

Well, for those who are or have been of the adagio only sort -- the second movement scherzo was completed and fully orchestrated by Mahler yet this is often conveniently ignored! 

[Crudblud]

Well, for those who are or have been of the adagio only sort -- the second movement scherzo was completed and fully orchestrated by Mahler yet this is often conveniently ignored! 

It was? I thought he only orchestrated the first movement and most of the third.

[Reckoner]

It was? I thought he only orchestrated the first movement and most of the third.

from imslp:

I. Adagio: 275 bars drafted in orchestral and short score
II. Scherzo – Finale: 521 bars drafted in orchestral and short score
III. Purgatorio. Allegro moderato: 144 bars drafted in short score, the first 30 bars also drafted in orchestral score
IV. Der Teufel tanzt es mit mir: 580 bars drafted in short score
V. Finale: 400 bars drafted in short score

http://imslp.org/wiki/Symphony_No.10_(Mahler,_Gustav)

http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/b/bb/IMSLP372921-PMLP495655-GMahler_Symphony_No.10_mvt2_fullscore_4325_ONB_Mus.Hs.41000-2.pdf

Of course not even Gus can beat your orchestration. 

[Crudblud]

from imslp:

I. Adagio: 275 bars drafted in orchestral and short score
II. Scherzo – Finale: 521 bars drafted in orchestral and short score
III. Purgatorio. Allegro moderato: 144 bars drafted in short score, the first 30 bars also drafted in orchestral score
IV. Der Teufel tanzt es mit mir: 580 bars drafted in short score
V. Finale: 400 bars drafted in short score

http://imslp.org/wiki/Symphony_No.10_(Mahler,_Gustav)

http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/b/bb/IMSLP372921-PMLP495655-GMahler_Symphony_No.10_mvt2_fullscore_4325_ONB_Mus.Hs.41000-2.pdf

Of course not even Gus can beat your orchestration. 

If I'd known he'd finished his own I wouldn't have bothered!

So, are there any recordings of the original orchestration, or is it in fact verbatim in Cooke's version? I ask because I've got about five different completions (Cooke, Wheeler, Carpenter, Mazzetti, Samale-Mazzucca) in my collection, and none of them sound particularly "Mahler-y" to me.