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Karl Henning

The beautiful artist in my life chuckles over the marketing slogan: The Freedom of Liberty.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 29, 2016, 05:50:42 AM
The message is where the now popular "vapid banality" originated; it was a response to poco calling Havergal Brian the Ultimate Faker. It is gone now...at least I couldn't find it.

I am really bewildered. I take it that the response, and the subseqiuent ZD7´s departure, had something to do with calling Medtner´s music "vapid banality"?
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

No, IIRC that phrase was cast at Havergal B.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

North Star

Some monsieur did cast that rock hard stone at Medtner, too.
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

My photographs on Flickr

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Florestan on January 29, 2016, 05:59:34 AM
I am really bewildered. I take it that the response, and the subseqiuent ZD7´s departure, had something to do with calling Medtner´s music "vapid banality"?

It's just speculation at this point. I haven't heard anyone say with authority why the dragon left.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Florestan

Quote from: North Star on January 29, 2016, 06:04:19 AM
Some monsieur did cast that rock hard stone at Medtner, too.

Ah, that makes it crystal clear, thank you. Why am I not bewildered anymore, I wonder?  ;D

I do hope ZD7 will come back and so will Elgarian.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

ritter

#1326
I didn't see anything particularly annoying in those "stones" (pebbles, rather  ;)) allegedly flung at Brian and / or Medtner. I do wish ZD7 comes back (if he has actually left), because his contributions were great reads and he had a contagious enthuiasm...

North Star

Quote from: ritter on January 29, 2016, 06:12:00 AM
I didn't see anything particularly annoying in those "stones" (pebbles, rather  ;)) allegedly flung at Brian and / or Medtner. I do wish ZD7 comes back (if he has actually left), because his contributions were great reads and he had a contageous enthuiasm...
Agreed; if anything, they were as brittle as dry clay when they hit anything (mostly the ground next to the barn).
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

My photographs on Flickr

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: ritter on January 29, 2016, 06:12:00 AM
I didn't see anything particularly annoying in those "stones" (pebbles, rather  ;)) allegedly flung at Brian and / or Medtner.

I'm one of the Havergalians (or Brianites) and poco's comment about Brian didn't bother me. Of course we fans have developed very thick hides as a necessity  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Florestan

Quote from: ritter on January 29, 2016, 06:12:00 AM
I didn't see anything particularly annoying in those "stones" (pebbles, rather  ;)) allegedly flung at Brian and / or Medtner.

Well, some people can really by annoyed by having (one of) their favorite composer(s) called this or that. I don´t see it as a good reason to leave GMG, though.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

ritter

Quote from: Florestan on January 29, 2016, 06:17:39 AM
Well, some people can really by annoyed by having (one of) their favorite composer(s) called this or that. I don´t see it as a good reason to leave GMG, though.
We Boulezians have developed a really thick skin  ;)

Karl Henning

Boulezians have a thick skin right out of the womb  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

North Star

If you think their skin is thick, we need a new adjective to describe their heads. ;)
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

My photographs on Flickr

Florestan

Quote from: ritter on January 29, 2016, 06:23:00 AM
We Boulezians have developed a really thick skin  ;)

That is nothing compared to the skin of Dittersdorfians;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Cato

#1334
Quote from: Florestan on January 29, 2016, 05:59:34 AM
I am really bewildered. I take it that the response, and the subseqiuent ZD7´s departure, had something to do with calling Medtner´s music "vapid banality"?

Quote from: karlhenning on January 29, 2016, 06:00:45 AM
No, IIRC that phrase was cast at Havergal B.

Oh the humidity!

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 29, 2016, 05:57:20 AM
;D :D ;D ...apparently there is some music that just calls for a redundant pejorative.  ;D

Minimalism?  It's pretty redundant!   :laugh:

Quote from: karlhenning on January 29, 2016, 05:58:58 AM
The beautiful artist in my life chuckles over the marketing slogan: The Freedom of Liberty.

Speaking of slogans, Ford Automotive has a campaign where the slogan has the word...

"unstoppable."  ??? ??? ???   Maybe not the best word to describe a car or its driver!  8)


"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

ritter

Quote from: North Star on January 29, 2016, 06:24:51 AM
If you think their skin is thick, we need a new adjective to describe their heads. ;)
Our skin may be thick, but our patience has a limit.... >:(...

:D :D :D

Karl Henning

Boulez has had patience?  0:)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Henk

Quote from: Cato on January 29, 2016, 05:51:26 AM
I will need to check his page: thanks for the "heads-up."

He became friends on FB with someone, it's not on his time-line.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Brian

Very sad to see ZD7 gone. Come back, ZD7!

I wonder if the reason for his departure was a malicious PM.

EigenUser

Quote from: Brian on January 29, 2016, 07:22:14 AM
Very sad to see ZD7 gone. Come back, ZD7!

I wonder if the reason for his departure was a malicious PM.
Could be, but he would be the last person I could imagine getting a malicious PM. He was always so positive and generally agreeable.

I really hope he comes back. Like ritter said, his posts were very enthusiastic.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".