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Symphonic Addict

What happened to @OrchestralNut? He deleted his account.
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Madiel

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Quote from: Løvfald on April 15, 2023, 04:02:48 PMWhat happened to @OrchestralNut? He deleted his account.

One of the people who was cranky about pictures being deleted. In fact talked about leaving a couple of days ago.

Deleting the cover of a Warner Classics album is I think a bit of a symbolic tipping point.
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Symphonic Addict

Quote from: Madiel on April 15, 2023, 05:51:41 PMOne of the people who was cranky about pictures being deleted. In fact talked about leaving a couple of days ago.

Hard to believe that that issue could open such a can of worms.
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Madiel

Quote from: Løvfald on April 15, 2023, 09:02:55 PMHard to believe that that issue could open such a can of worms.

I very much doubt the issue is the picture as such. But here is what Orchestral Nut said:

QuoteInterestingly, I might be leaving for the exact opposite reason.  I think the excessive and heavy handed prudishness is absolutely ridiculous and overboard.
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Symphonic Addict

Quote from: Madiel on April 15, 2023, 09:29:41 PMI very much doubt the issue is the picture as such. But here is what Orchestral Nut said:


I hope no one else will take anything too seriously and leave.
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Spotted Horses

I'm very sorry to see OrchestraNut go, and hope he will reconsider and return.

I hope that our new moderators take note, the actions they take can alienate forum members, even members who are not directly involved.
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Florestan

Quote from: Spotted Horses on April 15, 2023, 10:15:47 PMI'm very sorry to see OrchestraNut go, and hope he will reconsider and return.

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Ray, please, if you read this, come back! It's not worth it, my friend!

When I'm creating at the piano, I tend to feel happy; but - the eternal dilemma - how can we be happy amid the unhappiness of others? I'd do everything I could to give everyone a moment of happiness. That's what's at the heart of my music. — Nino Rota

Florestan

Quote from: Løvfald on April 15, 2023, 09:02:55 PMHard to believe that that issue could open such a can of worms.

According to the absolutely trustworthy testimony of a former moderator, the most belligerent, uncivil and unpleasant thread ever was one dealing with Haydn's string quartets , of all subject matters--- it ended up in some of nastiest ad hominem I ever read, not only here but on the entire internet; I know because the moderator saved some specimens and was kind enough to share them with me.  ;D

When I'm creating at the piano, I tend to feel happy; but - the eternal dilemma - how can we be happy amid the unhappiness of others? I'd do everything I could to give everyone a moment of happiness. That's what's at the heart of my music. — Nino Rota

Que

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Quote from: Florestan on April 16, 2023, 01:56:29 AMRay, please, if you read this, come back! It's not worth it, my friend!


It's certainly not worth it, I think. There is no moral policing here, even though some actually advocate it.

I once briefly joined CMG, when GMG was out for the 1st time since I became a member. I left within days after one of the moderators pontificated about the Netherlands being overrun by Muslim hordes, with drug addicts roaming the streets and the elderly euthanised en masse. I ran away as fast as my virtual legs could carry me...

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on April 16, 2023, 01:56:29 AM+ 1

Ray, please, if you read this, come back! It's not worth it, my friend!


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Florestan

Quote from: Que on April 16, 2023, 03:30:47 AMIt's certainly not worth it, I think. There is no moral policing here, even though some actually advocate it.

I once briefly joined CMG, when GMG was out for the 1st time since I became a member. I left within days after one of the moderators pontificated about the Netherlands being overrun by Muslim hordes, with drug addicts roaming the streets and the elderly euthanised en masse. I ran away as fast as my virtual legs could carry me...

I said it before and I say it now again: imho GMG is the best of its kind, despite occasional, and ultimately minor, bugs. That fully grown-up and educated, even widely cultured, adults sometimes behave like spoiled children (and this includes me, in spades) it's human nature, after all. And it's encouraging to notice that most members who have left in a fit of rage have eventually returned. Myself, I'll only leave GMG the day I'll die, and instruct my relatives to post an obituary here.  :D
When I'm creating at the piano, I tend to feel happy; but - the eternal dilemma - how can we be happy amid the unhappiness of others? I'd do everything I could to give everyone a moment of happiness. That's what's at the heart of my music. — Nino Rota

prémont

Quote from: Løvfald on April 15, 2023, 04:02:48 PMWhat happened to @OrchestralNut? He deleted his account.

Quote from: Brahmsian on April 14, 2023, 11:06:01 AMInterestingly, I might be leaving for the exact opposite reason.  I think the excessive and heavy handed prudishness is absolutely ridiculous and overboard.

I am happy to see, that OrchestralNut still visits GMG as the guest Brahmsian. Hopefully we can persuade him to return fully.
Any so-called free choice is only a choice between the available options.

Florestan

Quote from: premont on April 16, 2023, 05:48:41 AMI am happy to see, that OrchestralNut still visits GMG as the guest Brahmsian. Hopefully we can persuade him to return fully.

Yes, this. Come on, Ray, please return fully.

Hey, matey, don't let me down! United we stand!
When I'm creating at the piano, I tend to feel happy; but - the eternal dilemma - how can we be happy amid the unhappiness of others? I'd do everything I could to give everyone a moment of happiness. That's what's at the heart of my music. — Nino Rota

Spotted Horses

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Quote from: premont on April 16, 2023, 05:48:41 AMI am happy to see, that OrchestralNut still visits GMG as the guest Brahmsian. Hopefully we can persuade him to return fully.

That's not how I interpret that. I think when OrchestralNut created his account he chose the name Brahmsian. When he later changed the name (more than once, I think) Brahmsian remained the underlying name even though his profile contained information to the effect that a new name should be substituted. When he deleted his account his old posts defaulted to the original name.
There are simply two kinds of music, good music and the other kind. - Duke Ellington

prémont

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Quote from: Spotted Horses on April 16, 2023, 06:03:09 AMThat's not how I interpret that. I think when OrchestralNut created his account he chose the name Brahmsian. When he later changed the name (more than once, I think) Brahmsian remained the underlying name even though his profile contained information to the effect that a new name should be substituted. When he deleted his account his old posts defaulted to the original name.

You may of course be right. I didn't recall his original username. But still I hope he can be persuaded to return. It seems to me that this NSFW case has been a tempest in a teacup.
Any so-called free choice is only a choice between the available options.

Brian

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Quote from: premont on April 16, 2023, 06:18:56 AMYou may of course be right. I didn't recall his original username. But still I hope he can be persuaded to return. It seems to me that this NSFW case has been a tempest in a teacup.
One thing I have learned about this place is that it is almost always tempests in teacups.  ;D

Quote from: Spotted Horses on April 16, 2023, 06:03:09 AMThat's not how I interpret that. I think when OrchestralNut created his account he chose the name Brahmsian. When he later changed the name (more than once, I think) Brahmsian remained the underlying name even though his profile contained information to the effect that a new name should be substituted. When he deleted his account his old posts defaulted to the original name.
This is correct.

Florestan

Quote from: Brian on April 16, 2023, 06:23:27 AMOne thing I have learned about this place is that it is almost always tempests in teacups;D

Yes on retrospect --- on the spot and in the heat of the moment it's Sturm und Drang alright. ;D
When I'm creating at the piano, I tend to feel happy; but - the eternal dilemma - how can we be happy amid the unhappiness of others? I'd do everything I could to give everyone a moment of happiness. That's what's at the heart of my music. — Nino Rota

Brian

Quote from: Florestan on April 16, 2023, 06:30:35 AMYes on retrospect --- on the spot and in the heat of the moment it's Sturm und Drang alright. ;D
A test I like to apply is I imagine someone in real life saying, "Why are you typing?" And then I imagine having to explain "Here is what is happening on the internet..."  ;D

Florestan

Quote from: Brian on April 16, 2023, 07:16:22 AMA test I like to apply is I imagine someone in real life saying, "Why are you typing?" And then I imagine having to explain "Here is what is happening on the internet..."  ;D



When I'm creating at the piano, I tend to feel happy; but - the eternal dilemma - how can we be happy amid the unhappiness of others? I'd do everything I could to give everyone a moment of happiness. That's what's at the heart of my music. — Nino Rota

absolutelybaching

Quote from: Florestan on April 16, 2023, 06:30:35 AMYes on retrospect --- on the spot and in the heat of the moment it's Sturm und Drang alright. ;D

I am impressed at the fact that all those whose casual sexism created this problem in the first place are now so desperately keen to regard the matter as something that should all just be swept past and treated as of no consequence. Janus would be feeling entirely at home, right about now.