Tell Me What to Buy 3.0

Started by snyprrr, March 26, 2011, 06:44:28 AM

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snyprrr

This is where I'm at:

Mozart/Brahms/,...etc.,... Piano Quartets and such...


Kagel
Globokar
Hespos
Klaus Huber

Carter
Yun
Babbitt

Grisey
Mache
Dufourt
Aperghis (yes, Bruce, or Knight,... I still haven't plunged in  here yet, though I'm leaning on it,... too much $$$)
Amy
Manoury

Melchiorre
Miereanu
Tiensuu
Zender

Rueda
Posadas
Moe
Boesmans
Gasser
Febel
Beyer

Stockhausen

Henk

Boesmans is on my list as well.

- Don't get Kagel.
- Forget about "spectral music".

Young, contemporary composers I can recommend:
De Raaff
Pecou
Mantovani

I think they can be interesting to you.

some guy

Get all of them and make your own mind up!

(Really. What if you took Henk's advice and didn't get any Kagel and then found out years later that you thought Kagel was the bee's knees? Or bought some Pecou and found you couldn't tolerate it for excrement? (I only mention the latter pattern because if you bought Pecou on your own and didn't like it, so what? You win some; you lose some. But if you bought it on Henk's recommendation and didn't like it, then you'd be urinated off at Henk, too. And that can't be good!)

snyprrr

Quote from: snyprrr on March 26, 2011, 06:44:28 AM
This is where I'm at:

Mozart/Brahms/,...etc.,... Piano Quartets and such...


Kagel
Globokar
Hespos
Klaus Huber

Carter
Yun
Babbitt

Grisey
Mache
Dufourt
Aperghis (yes, Bruce, or Knight,... I still haven't plunged in  here yet, though I'm leaning on it,... too much $$$)
Amy
Manoury

Melchiorre
Miereanu
Tiensuu
Zender

Rueda
Posadas
Moe
Boesmans
Gasser
Febel
Beyer

Stockhausen

bump

snyprrr

uh... I'm quite passed this now... but,... 'm not, so... still need help.


I did actually snap up Aperghis, so that's one down.




I really need some mind blowing stuff, Turangalila X 10.

some guy

But the ears you have are still yours, right? And the mind? (They make such a sweet integrated unit.)

Anyway, in a real conversation with real people, you might get enough details to guide your explorations. Online? Not so much. We're not friends like your real friends and won't take the time like they will. And besides, real explorations are characterized by real danger. You're trying, aren't you, to make this experience safe.

What I think would be mind-blowing might not even ruffle your mind's feathers. And vise versa.

Kagel and Stockhausen are widely esteemed. You should probably try to deal with them whether you end up liking them or not. But that's probably true for the others less widely esteemed.

I esteem Globokar and Huber highly, too. But I'm not you. And I'm not going to go into detail!

If I had to guess, I would say that Huber, Grisey, and Dufourt would probably please you the most on first hearing. But it would only be a guess. And first hearings aren't alway reliable.

Otherwise, how did you come up with this list? When you say "Things that are crisp and spritely" as what you're listening to, I don't think of any of the people on your list. Maybe Huber. Then again, my sense of crisp and spritely are doubtless different from yours.

There are two Moe's by the way, very different from each other. Which one's the one on your list, Eric or Ole-Henrik?

karlhenning

But aren't there Five Guys Named Moe? . . .

some guy

Hahaha, you are correct, sir.

(Plus, they'll be a hit at your next party. I know, because the internets told me so.)

Coco

definitely add Gérard Pesson to your list, especially the SEON disc with Mes Béatitudes. Seems like your kind of thing.

val

To begin, I suggest Dufour, "les Hivers" and Boesman's Piano and Violin Concertos.

snyprrr

Quote from: some guy on October 25, 2011, 09:51:39 AM
But the ears you have are still yours, right? And the mind? (They make such a sweet integrated unit.)

Anyway, in a real conversation with real people, you might get enough details to guide your explorations. Online? Not so much. We're not friends like your real friends and won't take the time like they will. And besides, real explorations are characterized by real danger. You're trying, aren't you, to make this experience safe.

What I think would be mind-blowing might not even ruffle your mind's feathers. And vise versa.

Kagel and Stockhausen are widely esteemed. You should probably try to deal with them whether you end up liking them or not. But that's probably true for the others less widely esteemed.

I esteem Globokar and Huber highly, too. But I'm not you. And I'm not going to go into detail!

If I had to guess, I would say that Huber, Grisey, and Dufourt would probably please you the most on first hearing. But it would only be a guess. And first hearings aren't alway reliable.

Otherwise, how did you come up with this list? When you say "Things that are crisp and spritely" as what you're listening to, I don't think of any of the people on your list. Maybe Huber. Then again, my sense of crisp and spritely are doubtless different from yours.

There are two Moe's by the way, very different from each other. Which one's the one on your list, Eric or Ole-Henrik?

Just for the curious.

This is how my current listener's-block went: I'd really gotten myself riled up with the huge orchestral monstrosities, beginning with Le Sacre a few months ago, which moved into Messiaen. And some of the wilder Villa-Lobos. And the early Xenakis. And so on.

So, after inquiry, I still came up blank. But then, the glory hole (mining term ::)) appeared, and i realized that I'd neglected:

Gerhard
Norgard
Penderecki
Carter

and so forth. I got that old Carter/Erato-Boulez disc of the Oboe Concerto, which I really liked, and Norgard's No.3, which, for some reason, I'd held off on for years. This was the Grail, no doubt!

So, currently, I have my next financial BlackHole all set up and ready to go, haha! Aaaaaaand, I did it all with 'standard' pieces (as far as I'm concerned) that, of course, I NEEDED for historical context.

You all understand I'm sure! ;)


I fear, though, once I 'shore up' this oversight, I will be right back where I started. I will then start looking at Pesson, Dufour, and the other interesting names I've culled.

Thanks again guys.