Unpopular Opinions

[Karl Henning]

Easily the best post in the spirit of this thread...

(* chortlissimo *)

[Karl Henning]

Life is unthinkable without Mahler. There. I'm finally on topic 

Sarge

Excellent, Sarge! You rock as usual, my hat off to you!

You gents are entirely apt to make me smile!

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

Having heard last Friday live Brahms' First Symphony I was only confirmed in my long held opinion: apart from the Scherzo (only, without the Trio) and that melody in the finale, it is a formless and completely forgettable aborted foetus. 

While I don't agree with this assessment, I do think that the 1st Sym. is not as great as the 3 others. There is a sense of strain, of deliberate grandeur and monumentality, that drags it down a little. Thankfully Brahms got over his Beethoven complex after this one.

[jowcol]

Thread Duty: The Second is the best of the Prokofev symphonies

That's not an unpopular opinion with me-- I'm torn between the second and the third. 

[Christo]

a formless and completely forgettable aborted foetus. 

(I would take that as a reasonable assessment of the said composer as well.  )

[Geo Dude]

(I would take that as a reasonable assessment of the said composer as well.  )

Well, this is certainly the sort of thing this thread is for, I'll give you that!

[Florestan]

Well, this is certainly the sort of thing this thread is for, I'll give you that!

I wouldn't have thought it possible, but Christo beats Mirror Image by a wide margin. 

[Karl Henning]

But this is the very merriest of Mondays!

(* chortle yet again *)

[mszczuj]

The Second is the best of the Prokofev symphonies

This is not very strange as it is the best symphony written after Beethoven. What a pity it was the last good symphony of Prokofiev.

[madaboutmahler]

This is not very strange as it is the best symphony written after Beethoven. What a pity it was the last good symphony of Prokofiev.

You seem to be forgetting Mahler.

[Karl Henning]

No.

: )

[madaboutmahler]

What a piece of nonsense that statement was.... 
How you could easily dismiss all the symphonic masterpieces between Beethoven and Prokofiev? Ridiculous.

[Lethevich]

Dvorak's 2nd symphony is better than Prokofiev's.

*hides*

[Karl Henning]

What a piece of nonsense that statement was.... 
How you could easily dismiss all the symphonic masterpieces between Beethoven and Prokofiev? Ridiculous.

There, you see: It's a question of perspective.  For mszczuj, this is a matter of recognizing the greatness of the Prokofiev Second.  Let me guess: You do not even know the piece, yet you wish us to take seriously your opinion that it is ridiculous to consider the Prokofiev Second the "greatest symphony after Beethoven," ahead of Mahler's nine.

In any event, dude: get the thread title.  It's an opinion, and it may not be a popular opinion.  Got it? : )

[Karl Henning]

Dvorak's 2nd symphony is better than Prokofiev's.

*hides*

Tee-hee!

[madaboutmahler]

There, you see: It's a question of perspective.  For mszczuj, this is a matter of recognizing the greatness of the Prokofiev Second.  Let me guess: You do not even know the piece, yet you wish us to take seriously your opinion that it is ridiculous to consider the Prokofiev Second the "greatest symphony after Beethoven," ahead of Mahler's nine.

In any event, dude: get the thread title.  It's an opinion, and it may not be a popular opinion.  Got it? : )

Yes, I understand fully, Karl. And yes, I do know the 2nd symphony of Prokofiev, and I find it a great piece. Just cannot believe that mszczuj would dismiss everything between Beethoven and Prokofiev 2. Surely Brahms, Bruckner, Mahler (etc) should be mentioned. But fine - that's just my opinion that obviously not everyone shares.

[Bulldog]

Yes, I understand fully, Karl. And yes, I do know the 2nd symphony of Prokofiev, and I find it a great piece. Just cannot believe that mszczuj would dismiss everything between Beethoven and Prokofiev 2.

With your particular set of biases, you seem to have misunderstood the words of mszczuj.  All he said was that the Prokofiev 2nd was the best symphony after Beethoven; that was no dismissal of any other symphonies.  It's about time you hit yourself on the head with hammer.  

[madaboutmahler]

With your particular set of biases, you seem to have misunderstood the words of mszczuj.  All he said was that the Prokofiev 2nd was the best symphony after Beethoven; that was no dismissal of any other symphonies.  It's about time you hit yourself on the head with hammer.

Perhaps. Well, it still certainly is what can be classed as an 'unpopular opinion' of the highest order!

[TheGSMoeller]

Brahms 4th would be the greatest symphony from the Romantic era if it didn't contain the all too sunny third movement.

[Opus106]

Brahms 4th would be the greatest symphony from the Romantic era if it didn't contain the all too sunny third movement.

Hmm... I actually think it needs more triangles.