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AndyD.

Quote from: Florestan on September 20, 2012, 07:39:17 AM
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Please point me to a contemporary heavy metal band that could rekindle my passion for the genre. I'd be more than willing to hear them.

Lyraka! ;)

Just kiddin'. If you liked early Metallica, the latest Testament "Dark Roots of the Earth" might be right up your alley. Manowar's last cool album was Gods of War, there's some irritating narration, but if you like some Wagner with your Manowar you're in for a treat.

More contemporary...boy that's tough, because Metal has become more extreme. Many of the bands I could reccomend you might be a little too heavy, though if you have an open mind and can deal with extreme vocals you can't go wrong with Nile "In Their Darkened Shrines".

For Progressive Heavy-ish Rock with killer guitar, you want Uli Jon Roth's "Metamorphosis of Vivaldi's Four Seasons" or even better his latest masterpiece, "Under a Dark Sky".
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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Florestan on September 20, 2012, 07:34:09 AM
Perhaps. But non omnia possumus omnes (as a Catholic you surely know what I mean, don't you?)  :D

Does it mean, No ominous possums in this home?  I believe that's the Catholic blessing delivered after a house is exorcised. Thank god for high school Latin  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

AndyD.

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 20, 2012, 07:46:05 AM
Does it mean, No ominous possums in this home?  Thank god for high school Latin  ;D

Sarge


In her Gothic phase, Jasmine would have quite welcomed ominous possums. Both cute and forboding...
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Mirror Image

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 20, 2012, 06:53:47 AM
The remedy is this Solti recording with CSO, not the best overall, but the most exciting and frightening, the brass is insane, a sub-woofer is highly recommended.



What a horrible looking cover! That should go to the worst LP/CD thread!

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 20, 2012, 06:53:47 AM
The remedy is this Solti recording with CSO, not the best overall, but the most exciting and frightening, the brass is insane, a sub-woofer is highly recommended.



Do you mean Solti could make me appreciate the Scène aux champs?

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Florestan

Quote from: AndyD. on September 20, 2012, 07:45:09 AM
Lyraka! ;)

Just kiddin'. If you liked early Metallica, the latest Testament "Dark Roots of the Earth" might be right up your alley. Manowar's last cool album was Gods of War, there's some irritating narration, but if you like some Wagner with your Manowar you're in for a treat.

More contemporary...boy that's tough, because Metal has become more extreme. Many of the bands I could reccomend you might be a little too heavy, though if you have an open mind and can deal with extreme vocals you can't go wrong with Nile "In Their Darkened Shrines".

For Progressive Heavy-ish Rock with killer guitar, you want Uli Jon Roth's "Metamorphosis of Vivaldi's Four Seasons" or even better his latest masterpiece, "Under a Dark Sky".
Thanks. Will explore.
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Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: AndyD. on September 20, 2012, 07:47:42 AM

In her Gothic phase, Jasmine would have quite welcomed ominous possums. Both cute and forboding...

Reminds me of a recently seen TV show--an episode of Bones probably...or True Blood--in which a cute young woman was holding and petting a possum. Weird  :D


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 20, 2012, 08:12:11 AM
What a horrible looking cover! That should go to the worst LP/CD thread!

It was back in the 8-bit days.


DavidRoss

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 20, 2012, 07:46:05 AM
No ominous possums in this home
I'll have a bronze plaque made and hang it beside the front door.
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AndyD.

#650
So...the idea of a zombie possum would be posthumous ominous?


BWA-HA


sorry!
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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 20, 2012, 08:18:42 AM
Do you mean Solti could make me appreciate the Scène aux champs?

Sarge

Well, maybe, I should have specified it's more for the whole piece. Certainly not much insane brass parts in champs, but the added intensity of the surrounding movements could make one appreciate the calm of champs a little more.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 20, 2012, 09:27:38 AM
Well, maybe, I should have specified it's more for the whole piece. Certainly not much insane brass parts in champs, but the added intensity of the surrounding movements could make one appreciate the calm of champs a little more.

Thanks for clarifying. I was a bit confused...and maybe hoping a little that Solti had somehow, magically, turned that hazy pastoral into something "exciting and frightening" with insane brass  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 20, 2012, 10:46:43 AM
Thanks for clarifying. I was a bit confused...and maybe hoping a little that Solti had somehow, magically, turned that hazy pastoral into something "exciting and frightening" with insane brass  ;D

Sarge

Haha! Solti transcribed the entire third movement for two full brass ensembles, both on stage, and then one off-stage. Oh, and don't forget the 12 timpanists, scattered throughout the audience.

North Star

Quote from: Florestan on September 20, 2012, 07:39:17 AM
0:)

Please point me to a contemporary heavy metal band that could rekindle my passion for the genre. I'd be more than willing to hear them.

I turned 20 some time ago, so haven't been listening to heavy metal lately  :P
Anyway - for prog metal, Opeth is very nice (although I don't know whether you can stand growling or not - not all of Opeth has it, and it's decreased in their more recent albums, IIRC)
Here's the bands vocalist/guitarist/composer Mikael Åkerfeldt and Porcupine Tree's (prog rock) Steven Wilson's project Storm Corrosion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manW5v-AR7U
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DavidRoss

Quote from: AndyD. on September 20, 2012, 09:25:53 AM
So...the idea of a zombie possum would be posthumous ominous?
BWA-HA
;D Now you're hanging upside down by your tail from MNDave's tree!
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

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eyeresist

Quote from: Florestan on September 20, 2012, 06:13:32 AMHah! Snorrington making someone wake up... now that's as unpopular as it gets...  :D :D :D

From what I'm heard of it, Norrington's Berlioz is terrific - such a shame I still don't like Berlioz :D


Re Metal, I would say prog is not the solution, it's the problem. There's another unpopular opinion for ya.

Madiel

#657
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on September 19, 2012, 08:36:11 PM
Dude, is it really necessary to spell it out for you as if this were kindergarden?

Yes.  Is it really necessary for you to say that an opinion you disagree with isn't just wrong, but not an opinion? That was just a completely absurd tack to take.  And you kept taking it even when challenged, for which you deserve all the sarcastic derision about wormholes you received.
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Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 20, 2012, 10:46:43 AM
Thanks for clarifying. I was a bit confused...and maybe hoping a little that Solti had somehow, magically, turned that hazy pastoral into something "exciting and frightening" with insane brass  ;D

Sarge
There are two versions that may be of interest to you. I have not heard either one (but maybe soemeone here has). Both are often associated with the terms 'hot', 'molten', 'fiery', or something similar. They are Stokowski and Rozhdestvensky (Live Proms recording).
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Dancing Divertimentian

#659
Quote from: orfeo on September 20, 2012, 07:44:28 PM
Yes.  Is it really necessary for you to say that an opinion you disagree with isn't just wrong, but not an opinion? That was just a completely absurd tack to take.  And you kept taking it even when challenged, for which you deserve all the sarcastic derision about wormholes you received.

Sarcasm you say?

Anyhoo...what it amounts to is this:

I don't care what anyone thinks about Berlioz. Period. You can hate him, love him, lukewarm him, whatever.

But to call him a "hack" in the face of overwhelming evidence that he is NOT a hack is ignorant (no offense ;D). And just what evidence is that, you say?

A) A look at the number of musicians who endorse his music by performing it.

B) A look at the number of musicians who endorse his music by recording it.

C) The sum of A) and B) equals a long history of performing and recording by some of the biggest and brightest names in the
    classical biz.

D) His music shows no sign of losing its steam. In fact, the HIP movement thinks highly enough of his music to dig into it with
    enthusiasm.

E) Musicians aside, the market for Berlioz is such that since the inception of his music it's been popular enough that the listening
    public buys it. Either by collecting recordings or attending concerts.

F) And so on and so on....

Nothing about the above spells "hack". THAT'S what I objected to.

Like I said, the poster with whom I had issue with has already cleared the air (much appreciated). What exactly do you gain by continuing on with HIS argument that's already been resolved?!??


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