Unpopular Opinions

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Madiel

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Sure, okay, so it's an ignorant opinion. That's still an opinion.  If you go back and look, you will see that I didn't comment on your objection to "hack" (which I understood perfectly well the first time), I commented on your statement that an opinion wasn't an opinion.  THAT'S what I objected to.

And this is a message board.  If you don't want other people to contribute, use a private messaging system.

What I gain is the wild hope that the English language will continue to mean what it's generally accepted to mean, enabling communication to work in the future.  If I unilaterally decided that the word "bananas" referred to something the rest of the world called "oranges", you seem to be suggesting that everyone should just go along with my quirk and not query it.

If I started saying that trios should be called quartets, quartets should be called symphonies and symphonies should be called flerzigigs, and began posting across the forum accordingly, the reaction would be quite fascinating but I doubt very much that all the posters would just go "oh, he didn't say that to me personally so let's not get involved". Not least because every single new member would have to be taken aside to have all my bizarre posts about quartets, symphonies and flerzigigs decoded for them.

A message board is for the purpose of communication.  Communication is not furthered by randomly changing the accepted meaning of words when you feel like it.

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Quote from: orfeo on September 21, 2012, 12:36:21 AM
Sure, okay, so it's an ignorant opinion.

Thank you for conceding the point. Ignorant Opinions are over there, in the Pathos File.
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DavidW

Hey this is a thread for posting unpopular opinions without getting the beat down.  Let's stop giving Orfeo a hard time.

Please.

:)

Madiel

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Quote from: karlhenning on September 21, 2012, 02:22:43 AM
Thank you for conceding the point.

Never argued that point to begin with!

EDIT: Look, as much as people seem to be enjoying this conversation so much  ::) could you all go back to read page 30, see what it actually says at the point I became involved re Berlioz and then come back? Ta.

Maybe then we could move on to discussing how bloody boring Philip Glass is, or something.
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Mirror Image

Quote from: orfeo on September 21, 2012, 03:36:34 AM
Never argued that point to begin with!

EDIT: Look, as much as people seem to be enjoying this conversation so much  ::) could you all go back to read page 30, see what it actually says at the point I became involved re Berlioz and then come back? Ta.

Maybe then we could move on to discussing how bloody boring Philip Glass is, or something.

I read what you said and you never called Berlioz a hack. That was an opinion offered by another member. Philip Glass is a bore. Yes, no doubt about it. :D

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: orfeo on September 21, 2012, 03:36:34 AM
Maybe then we could move on to discussing how bloody boring Philip Glass is, or something.

How dare you, how dare you, how dare you, how dare you say that, how dare you say that,
The man, the man, the man is a, the man is a, the man is a genius, the man is a genius,
How dare you, how dare you, how dare you say that, how dare you say that.

Madiel

Glass in prose. VERY nice!  ;D

Walked into the classical section of a Sydney music shop once, and they were playing Einstein on the Beach quite loudly over the speakers.  It was a serious turn-off. I tried to flick through the racks for items of interest, but I gave up.  It was exactly like how they use light classical music to drive teenage hooligans away from bus and train stations, but shops aren't usually intending to drive away prospective customers.
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Mirror Image

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 21, 2012, 03:51:15 AM
How dare you, how dare you, how dare you, how dare you say that, how dare you say that,
The man, the man, the man is a, the man is a, the man is a genius, the man is a genius,
How dare you, how dare you, how dare you say that, how dare you say that.

Greg, you, Greg, you, Greg, you are, Greg, you are, Greg, you are crazy. :P

Mirror Image

I'm surprised some haven't ripped some of my favorite composers yet. Like Tippett for example. He seems to be the "anti-composer" according to some journalists ::).

PaulR

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 21, 2012, 04:03:20 AM
I'm surprised some haven't ripped some of my favorite composers yet. Like Tippett for example. He seems to be the "anti-composer" according to some journalists ::).
Well, the thread is about unpopular opinions.  Not "opinions that are shared by many no matter how incorrect."   0:)

CaughtintheGaze

Quote from: DavidW on September 21, 2012, 03:17:20 AM
Hey this is a thread for posting unpopular opinions without getting the beat down.  Let's stop giving Orfeo a hard time.

Mouth breathing. You've been here long enough to know this David.

CaughtintheGaze

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 21, 2012, 03:51:15 AM
How dare you, how dare you, how dare you, how dare you say that, how dare you say that,
The man, the man, the man is a, the man is a, the man is a genius, the man is a genius,
How dare you, how dare you, how dare you say that, how dare you say that.

For anyone who says that Glass is a bore, I'd ask them what they've actually heard of his. Sames goes for Adams, who sometimes gets lumped in with him.

Madiel

Quote from: CaughtintheGaze on September 21, 2012, 05:04:52 AM
For anyone who says that Glass is a bore, I'd ask them what they've actually heard of his. Sames goes for Adams, who sometimes gets lumped in with him.

You won't find me doing any lumping.  I've not heard huge amounts of either of them, but Adams was interesting and Glass wasn't.

I've already mentioned involuntarily sampling Einstein on the Beach, but apart from that I wasn't exactly eager to note down precisely what I was hearing when encountering Mr. Glass.  Let's see... consulting Wikipedia list of compositions... I can definitely tell you I've heard at least 4 of the film scores and excerpts from another.  I know I've heard at least one or two other things, but heck, even the names aren't memorable.  I mean, Music in Fifths, Music in Similar Motion, Music in Twelve Parts?  Evocative!

What else do you suggest I subject myself to?
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Quote from: PaulR on September 21, 2012, 05:00:39 AM
Well, the thread is about unpopular opinions.  Not "opinions that are shared by many no matter how incorrect."   0:)

You put the lie to your sidebar note, Dude... :D

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CaughtintheGaze

Quote from: orfeo on September 21, 2012, 05:20:07 AM
What else do you suggest I subject myself to?

I'd recommend any of his solo keyboard works, and also his symphonies. To be more specific: Symphony No. 8 and Metamorphosis and Etudes for solo keyboard.

AndyD.

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Quote from: orfeo on September 21, 2012, 05:20:07 AM
What else do you suggest I subject myself to?

I'm not a Glass fan either, but this is an attractive concerto:




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Quote from: AndyD. on September 21, 2012, 05:27:36 AM
I should have mentioned George Clinton (Funkadelic) amongst the demi-gods.

Nope. Still doesn't raise hackles. You'll just have to try harder, Andy  ;D


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