Genesis

Started by Karl Henning, November 16, 2011, 06:15:08 AM

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Karl Henning

Inspired by these posts:

Quote from: Bulldog on November 15, 2011, 08:05:10 PM
Why did you post what might be the worst song Genesis ever recorded? [meaning "Entangled"]

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on November 16, 2011, 06:00:47 AM
I'd nominate "Illegal Alien" for that dishonor.

What's your preferred "worst song by Genesis"? (Why am I thinking it should be from And Then There Were Three . . . ? Or should it be from Calling All Stations . . . an album to which I haven't yet listened?)

In the topic header, though, I am leaving open the possibility of other lines of discourse . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on November 16, 2011, 06:15:08 AM
Inspired by these posts:

What's your preferred "worst song by Genesis"? (Why am I thinking it should be from And Then There Were Three . . . ? Or should it be from Calling All Stations . . . an album to which I haven't yet listened?)

In the topic header, though, I am leaving open the possibility of other lines of discourse . . . .


And here I was gearing up for the "male/female- man/woman" debate! ::)

That's All!

TheGSMoeller

saw Genesis in concert in the late 80s, possibly their Invisible Touch tour.

chasmaniac

I disliked post-Wind & Wuthering (well, actually, post-Seconds Out) Genesis so much I can't even name the songs! Guess I'll have to say Banana!
If I have exhausted the justifications, I have reached bedrock and my spade is turned. Then I am inclined to say: "This is simply what I do."  --Wittgenstein, PI §217

springrite

Quote from: chasmaniac on November 16, 2011, 06:33:04 AM
I disliked post-Wind & Wuthering (well, actually, post-Seconds Out) Genesis so much I can't even name the songs! Guess I'll have to say Banana!

Hey! Banana is the only song by Genesis that I liked!
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Karl Henning

That's the song they subsequently renamed "Mama," I believe.

I take it that nobody believes the worst Genesis song was recorded while Peter Gabriel was with the band? ; )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

kishnevi

Quote from: karlhenning on November 16, 2011, 06:41:08 AM
That's the song they subsequently renamed "Mama," I believe.

I take it that nobody believes the worst Genesis song was recorded while Peter Gabriel was with the band? ; )

Well, let me put it this way:  I have yet to hear a song involving Peter Gabriel which I did not find interesting to listen to, even if ultimately I can't say I actually liked it.  Whereas I would be hard pressed to identify a song involving Phil Collins of which I can say the same, even though I like most of the Collins era songs in an easy listening--Andre Rieu sort of way.

Karl Henning

Maybe I should post this in the Unpopular Opinions thread, but . . . I actually like "Supper's Ready" rather better on Seconds Out than on Foxtrot.  And only partly because the band sound so much warmer, and punchier, on the live album.  The two versions of this track highlight for me how at times unnecessarily distracting Peter Gabriel's overwrought dramatism can be.

Still, there can be no denying that it was that showiness which brough the band publicity at a tender time . . . but when I see footage from that era, the overall impression I get tends to be, well, rather goofy.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Conor71

I'm not a fan of their song "I cant Dance"  :-X

Karl Henning

Quote from: Conor71 on November 16, 2011, 10:36:30 AM
I'm not a fan of their song "I cant Dance"  :-X

D'you know, if I had heard it back when they first released it, I may well have reacted rather negatively, myself.

As it is, I first made the song's acquaintance via a DVD where they talked about working the song up . . . and I'm jiggered if that didn't hook me in.  I really do like it.  Of course, it's nothing like "The Musical Box," or "Watcher of the Skies," or "Firth of Fifth," or "The Waiting Room," or "Los Endos," or, or, or . . . but, such as it is, I do indeed like it.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Conor71

Quote from: karlhenning on November 16, 2011, 10:41:00 AM
D'you know, if I had heard it back when they first released it, I may well have reacted rather negatively, myself.

As it is, I first made the song's acquaintance via a DVD where they talked about working the song up . . . and I'm jiggered if that didn't hook me in.  I really do like it.  Of course, it's nothing like "The Musical Box," or "Watcher of the Skies," or "Firth of Fifth," or "The Waiting Room," or "Los Endos," or, or, or . . . but, such as it is, I do indeed like it.



My aquaintance with the song is pretty casual so its possible I missed something with it! - I think it was the Music Video that put me off it a bit at the time it was released!.
I will probably revisit it at some stage though - The only Collins Era albums I have heard in full are And Then there were Three and Invisible Touch both of which I used to own and may buy again in the future :)

Ataraxia

I tired of them quickly. SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND is pretty good though. Prefer solo Gabriel and I don't even listen to that these days.

Karl Henning

And we're still mates.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

TheGSMoeller

Can't link it at the moment, but the Land of Confusion music video was great.


Ataraxia

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on November 16, 2011, 12:29:20 PM
Can't link it at the moment, but the Land of Confusion music video was great.

See? Different strokes. That video makes me want to kill something.

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Ataraxia on November 16, 2011, 12:30:11 PM
See? Different strokes. That video makes me want to kill something.

Well, Im glad you didn't...or did you? :o  ;D

Karl Henning

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on November 16, 2011, 12:29:20 PM
Can't link it at the moment, but the Land of Confusion music video was great.

And since it's puppets, Tony Banks jokes that that was the easiest video for the band to make . . . and too bad the puppets couldn't go on tour for them . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Conor71 on November 16, 2011, 10:47:14 AM

My aquaintance with the song is pretty casual so its possible I missed something with it! - I think it was the Music Video that put me off it a bit at the time it was released!.
I will probably revisit it at some stage though - The only Collins Era albums I have heard in full are And Then there were Three and Invisible Touch both of which I used to own and may buy again in the future :)

If someone had asked the question back when the Genesis album was freshly released, I should probably then have nominated "That's All" as the worst song of their'n.

Time has passed, and I even listen to that song quite tolerantly . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

petrarch

Quote from: karlhenning on November 16, 2011, 12:50:27 PM
And since it's puppets, Tony Banks jokes that that was the easiest video for the band to make . . . and too bad the puppets couldn't go on tour for them . . . .

Only Kraftwerk have pulled that off :). Well, maybe not a tour, but at least a number of photo sessions.
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