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Check the lists in this article.  8)

MINIMAL MUSIC, MAXIMAL IMPACT
By Kyle Gann on November 1, 2001
New Music Box


torut

Quote from: 7/4 on June 05, 2014, 11:00:32 AM
Check the lists in this article.  8)

MINIMAL MUSIC, MAXIMAL IMPACT
By Kyle Gann on November 1, 2001
New Music Box
A very interesting list. Thanks.
I recently listened to Music by Phill Niblock (Five More String Quartets & Early Winter), which is also mentioned in the Gann's book. An extreme minimalism, and I like it.

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Quote from: torut on June 06, 2014, 11:11:04 PM
A very interesting list. Thanks.
I recently listened to Music by Phill Niblock (Five More String Quartets & Early Winter), which is also mentioned in the Gann's book. An extreme minimalism, and I like it.

It's great, I've heard Phils music live a few times. Guitar groups and lot's of playbacks of recordings over loud PA....he turns it up as the evening goes on. It's been a long time since I've been to anything at Experimental Intermedia. I think I went to a Niblock evening at Roulette when it was still in Tribecca.

torut

I wonder what it would be like to hear Niblock live. :)

I read Gann's web article. It is a great guide to minimalism, postminimalism and totalism. A lot of composers I have not heard the music of. Also it helped clarifying my confusion about the term "minimalism." I wish he will write the book about postminimalism he mentioned in the article.

torut

Kyle Gann

Fugitive Objects (2007) for keyboard sampler
https://www.youtube.com/v/LlFmJEQzGPI

Quote from: GannFugitive Objects is a work for keyboard sampler, actually a virtual retuned electric piano. [...] The piece uses a peculiar just-intonation scale

Very strange tuning.

Long Night (1980-1) for 3 pianos
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Quote from: Gannthe most successful piece from my early, Brian-Eno-influenced, ambient period, a variable-length piece for three nonsynchronized pianos at different tempos.

Extremely beautiful.

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lescamil

I am playing Long Night right now with two other pianists, and this is some of the most fun I've had collaborating with a pianist in a long time. It really seems like one of those pieces where there is no pressure and all enjoyment, and it is beautiful to just be a part of.
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torut

Quote from: lescamil on June 11, 2014, 06:23:29 AM
I am playing Long Night right now with two other pianists, and this is some of the most fun I've had collaborating with a pianist in a long time. It really seems like one of those pieces where there is no pressure and all enjoyment, and it is beautiful to just be a part of.
That sounds wonderful. I guess it must be difficult, because the pianists need to play at different tempos. The CD was recorded by one pianist using over dubbing, which seems easier. As suggested by the instruction, did you use silent metronomes?

Kyle Gann's web site is very nice. For most of the works, except that are released on official CDs, there are mp3 clips and scores
http://kylegann.com/Gannmusic.html.

lescamil

Quote from: torut on June 11, 2014, 08:45:26 PM
That sounds wonderful. I guess it must be difficult, because the pianists need to play at different tempos. The CD was recorded by one pianist using over dubbing, which seems easier. As suggested by the instruction, did you use silent metronomes?

We each have our own metronome that we play with, with a headphone connected and in one ear. The harder thing is to coordinate when each pianist is to move to the next section, and in what order.
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Quote from: lescamil on June 11, 2014, 10:39:27 PM
We each have our own metronome that we play with, with a headphone connected and in one ear. The harder thing is to coordinate when each pianist is to move to the next section, and in what order.
Thanks. The music is nice to listen to, but it is interesting to hear how performers feel whileplaying this kind of work.
I think Lutosławski said about his SQ that he wanted each performer to play independent, not to hear other parts. I wonder if performing like that would be fun.

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Someone already mentioned Ellen Fullman...I'm currently listening to Body Music (Experimental Intermedia).

The music tends to be slow and minimal because it's performed on the Long String Instrument. It's also microtonal.


Years ago I heard three shows at Columbia University with the Deep Listening Band. I kept going because I was looking for differences between the concerts...where is the composition and where is the improvisation!


A review I wrote a while ago: Ellen Fullman and Monique Buzzarté
Fluctuations (Deep Listening DL 38-2007)

and the composer's website: http://www.ellenfullman.com/

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the Long String Instrument.


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Eliane Radigue - I'm really blown away by her epic droning analog synth compositions. Slowly developing pieces, so not strict minimalism. Trilogie de la Morte, Adnos I-III - for example.


torut

Quote from: 7/4 on June 16, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
the Long String Instrument.
Very interesting. I listened to Body Music today and it was mesmerizing. I sometimes hear subtle, nice melodies but cannot catch it for sure. I had similar experience while listening to Charlemagne Palestine's music.
An article about her mentioned Harry Partch and Alvin Lucier's Music on a Long Thin Wire, which I have been curious about for some time. I heard it on youtube, and it felt like an acoustic experiment. Fullman's works are more musical.

I am also interested in Eliane Radique's music since I saw it somewhere in this forum. I need to check it.

milk

Quote from: 7/4 on June 16, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
the Long String Instrument.


Wow! That is so cool!
https://www.youtube.com/v/Uq9AFRMWLTU
(I like the commenter: "play freebird!")
I'm just sampling this:

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milk

Quote from: 7/4 on June 30, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
people should know.  ;D
This makes me want to go out and buy some wire! These will be my next purchases!

torut

I am finding amazing stuff in the Gann's list.

Arnold Dreyblatt - Propellers In Love

https://www.youtube.com/v/5ZPYf9IO98U

The styles are very different, but the idea about the string sound reminded me of Ellen Fullman.

Arnold Dreyblatt talks about his instrument, excited strings.

https://www.youtube.com/v/cZ83d5gbJng

milk

Quote from: torut on July 09, 2014, 11:42:46 PM
I am finding amazing stuff in the Gann's list.

Arnold Dreyblatt - Propellers In Love

https://www.youtube.com/v/5ZPYf9IO98U

The styles are very different, but the idea about the string sound reminded me of Ellen Fullman.

Arnold Dreyblatt talks about his instrument, excited strings.

https://www.youtube.com/v/cZ83d5gbJng
sounds great!

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Quote from: torut on July 09, 2014, 11:42:46 PM
I am finding amazing stuff in the Gann's list.

The styles are very different, but the idea about the string sound reminded me of Ellen Fullman.

The techniques are very different. The LSI is bowed and the Excited Strings are percussion instruments? (I don't have time to watch the video.)