Your favorite composer born in 1685

Started by Bulldog, December 08, 2011, 02:38:15 PM

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Which of these three composers born in 1685 is your favorite?

J.S. Bach
29 (78.4%)
Handel
6 (16.2%)
D. Scarlatti
2 (5.4%)

Total Members Voted: 35

Voting closed: December 13, 2011, 02:38:15 PM

Karl Henning

#60
Quote from: 71 dB on December 10, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
There must be considerable musical redundancy within the 555 sonatas.

Why?  And how could you claim such a thing, having listened only to 17 of them?  Perhaps there is considerable musical redundancy in the Bach cantatas, or in the Haydn symphonies: that would not nullify musical value which any listener finds in any one of them, right?

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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Myself, even though I've got some twelve of the Pieter-Jan Belder series of the sonatas . . . I am probably going to fetch in the Ross set before very long.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Opus106

#62
Quote from: karlhenning on December 11, 2011, 09:30:30 AM
Myself, even though I've got some twelve of the Pieter-Jan Belder series of the sonatas . . . I am probably going to fetch in the Ross set before very long.

That's going too far if it's going to be a retaliatory purchase! ;D ;)
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Navneeth

71 dB

Quote from: karlhenning on December 11, 2011, 09:29:15 AM
Why?  And how could you claim such a thing, having listened only to 17 of them?

Because there is some redundancy already among those 17. It's statistically logical to assume the redundancy is larger among 555.

Quote from: karlhenning on December 11, 2011, 09:29:15 AMPerhaps there is considerable musical redundancy in the Bach cantatas, or in the Haydn symphonies: that would not nullify musical value which any listener finds in any one of them, right?[/font]

I seem to enjoy Bach's cantatas more than Scarlatti's sonatas or Haydn's symphonies. That's why I collect more Bach than Scarlatti or Haydn.

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Karl Henning

Quote from: Opus106 on December 11, 2011, 09:36:32 AM
That's going too far if it's going to be retaliatory purchase! ;D ;)

Hah!

No, it's just love for the lit.  Fact is, I once pulled the trigger on Amazon for the complete Belder set (which was advertised briefly for an astonishingly decent price), but then before delivery I was told it was unavailable.  Yes, I was bummed!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: 71 dB on December 11, 2011, 09:38:51 AM
Because there is some redundancy already among those 17.

Oh, puh-leeze.  Say that those 17 are all you need, all you wish to hear, but spare me the pronouncement that there is reduncancy among those 17.  I think that Andjaparidze (I'm probably misspelling her name, no disrespect intended) would be a dull artist, if for a single disc of Scarlatti, she programmed redundancy in there.

So, Poju, setting aside the admittedly interesting question whether anything you do or say be right, I am afraid that in this matter, I must respect the pianist's opinion more highly than yours.

Sorry, lad!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

71 dB

Quote from: karlhenning on December 11, 2011, 09:44:34 AM
I am afraid that in this matter, I must respect the pianist's opinion more highly than yours.

Don't worry Karl, I can live with that.

This thread turned into absurd debate over how many sonatas by D. Scarlatti I should have. It is my money and my life. I hope this debate is over by now.
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Bulldog

Quote from: karlhenning on December 11, 2011, 09:44:34 AM
Oh, puh-leeze.  Say that those 17 are all you need, all you wish to hear, but spare me the pronouncement that there is reduncancy among those 17.  I think that Andjaparidze (I'm probably misspelling her name, no disrespect intended) would be a dull artist, if for a single disc of Scarlatti, she programmed redundancy in there.

Of course there's redundancy in those 17 sonatas: some are slow, some are of moderate tempo and some are fast. ;D

Bulldog

Quote from: 71 dB on December 11, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
Don't worry Karl, I can live with that.

This thread turned into absurd debate over how many sonatas by D. Scarlatti I should have. It is my money and my life. I hope this debate is over by now.

As far as I'm concerned, this thread has nothing to do with you, Karl or any nonsense about "should".  It's about three outstanding composers and the one each board member prefers.

As for the notion of redundancy, it's probably best not to make that claim without being familiar with at least most of the Scarlatti sonatas.
My opinion is that there is certainly sufficient variety of expression and form in his keyboard music.

Bulldog

The voting has closed; as expected, Bach easily took the top spot.  I was surprised with Scarlatti getting only two votes, as I thought that he was very highly regarded by board members. 

I do wonder how Scarlatti and Handel would fare with Bach out of the picture.  Perhaps another time.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Bulldog on December 15, 2011, 09:13:40 AM
The voting has closed; as expected, Bach easily took the top spot.  I was surprised with Scarlatti getting only two votes, as I thought that he was very highly regarded by board members.

I regard him highly; I abstained from the vote. I'm statistically useless ; )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Bulldog

Quote from: karlhenning on December 15, 2011, 09:21:09 AM
I regard him highly; I abstained from the vote. I'm statistically useless ; )

You're only useless if you decide to be so. :D

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: 71 dB on December 11, 2011, 09:38:51 AM
Because there is some redundancy already among those 17. It's statistically logical to assume the redundancy is larger among 555.

The redundancy is only superficial.