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Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 13, 2012, 09:48:57 AMWell, I have just to admit that I'm rather surprised about how much Mahler is adored in this forum

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Lisztianwagner

Quote from: Mirror Image on January 13, 2012, 08:35:36 PM
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Maybe I had to add: "apart from Mirror Image" :P But I think you've appreciated some of Mahler's symphonies John, at least one/two, or it is only a conviction created by my unconscious?
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Karl Henning

Mahler Industries has been hard at work, for decades, on re-branding The Neurotic Austrian : )
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mirror Image

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 14, 2012, 02:46:18 AM
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Maybe I had to add: "apart from Mirror Image" :P But I think you've appreciated some of Mahler's symphonies John, at least one/two, or it is only a conviction created by my unconscious?

Oh, well certainly I like Mahler's 5th a lot. Some may not care much for it but I think it holds up well. I like the 7th a lot too. The 9th is pretty darn good too. I particularly like that last movement Adagio. Very powerful. But in all honesty, Mahler just isn't a composer that hits me the same way Ravel, Bartok, Shostakovich, Vaughan Williams, Villa-Lobos, etc. does. I don't know what it is that I don't like about the music but I just don't find it compelling and it just doesn't ignite much interest from me. It's really one of those unexplainable things. It's kind of like why doesn't Holmboe's music touch me? Why doesn't Schnittke appeal to me when his style is so fascinating? I don't know why, I just know that I don't like the aesthetic of it. Does any of this make any sense?

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 13, 2012, 09:48:57 AM
Welcome David, nice to meet you! :)

Well, I have just to admit that I'm rather surprised about how much Mahler is adored in this forum; definitely no problem though, he's also one of my absolute favourite composers. ;)

Count me in. Love his songs, too.
ZB
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: Mirror Image on January 14, 2012, 08:43:45 AM
Oh, well certainly I like Mahler's 5th a lot. Some may not care much for it but I think it holds up well. I like the 7th a lot too. The 9th is pretty darn good too. I particularly like that last movement Adagio. Very powerful. But in all honesty, Mahler just isn't a composer that hits me the same way Ravel, Bartok, Shostakovich, Vaughan Williams, Villa-Lobos, etc. does. I don't know what it is that I don't like about the music but I just don't find it compelling and it just doesn't ignite much interest from me. It's really one of those unexplainable things. It's kind of like why doesn't Holmboe's music touch me? Why doesn't Schnittke appeal to me when his style is so fascinating? I don't know why, I just know that I don't like the aesthetic of it. Does any of this make any sense?

Yes, it's not so simple to explain, though I may understand; something similar happens to me as well, especially with the Italian composers of opera: I may listen to their works, I might appreciate what I hear, but I'm not brought to listen to more and I'm not interested in knowing that music better, it's not attractive and powerful enough.

QuoteCount me in. Love his songs, too.
ZB

That's great; what about the symphonies?
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Karl Henning

Mahler wrote symphonies?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Lisztianwagner

"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg