Cabezón, Arauxo, Cabanilles etc etc

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Selig



Looks like I chose a good time to start listening to 17C Spanish organ music  :)

Montserrat Torrent has completed her Arauxo integral! A final volume was recorded just last year in Tordesillas (San Pedro) and has been released together with the previous volumes.

premont

Quote from: Selig on December 09, 2021, 04:29:37 AM


Montserrat Torrent has completed her Arauxo integral! A final volume was recorded just last year in Tordesillas (San Pedro) and has been released together with the previous volumes.

Still active? She was born 1926.

Do you know any valid link for the Arauxo set?
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Selig

I was surprised to learn she still plays concerts. And I found a couple articles (in Spanish) about her final disc, recorded at age 94.

The physical product seems currently only available directly from la Sociedad Española de Musicología (email for shipping outside of Spain: sedem@sedem.es).

But you may want to buy only the previously unreleased material digitally: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09C2SC326/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp

Disc 6 should be the recently recorded disc, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but disc 5 may be previously unreleased too?

Disc 1 = Vol. I (Sevilla, El Salvador)
Disc 2 = Vol. II (Granada, San Jeronimo)
Disc 3 = Vol. III  (Almonacid de la Sierra)
Disc 4 = Vol. IV (all of the above)
Disc 5 = ?
Disc 6 = Tordesillas, San Pedro

premont

Quote from: Selig on December 09, 2021, 07:08:31 AM
I was surprised to learn she still plays concerts. And I found a couple articles (in Spanish) about her final disc, recorded at age 94.

The physical product seems currently only available directly from la Sociedad Española de Musicología (email for shipping outside of Spain: sedem@sedem.es).

But you may want to buy only the previously unreleased material digitally: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09C2SC326/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp

Disc 6 should be the recently recorded disc, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but disc 5 may be previously unreleased too?

Disc 1 = Vol. I (Sevilla, El Salvador)
Disc 2 = Vol. II (Granada, San Jeronimo)
Disc 3 = Vol. III  (Almonacid de la Sierra)
Disc 4 = Vol. IV (all of the above)
Disc 5 = ?
Disc 6 = Tordesillas, San Pedro

Thanks for this. It seems to be mp3 download from Amazon. Do you know if it is the highest mp3 quality? Otherwise I am not convinced, that it is suitable for organ music.

And do you know how La Sociedad Española de Musicología wants a transfer of money to take place? Paypal? Creditcard?
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Mandryka

Quote from: (: premont :) on December 09, 2021, 10:22:45 AM
Thanks for this. It seems to be mp3 download from Amazon. Do you know if it is the highest mp3 quality? Otherwise I am not convinced, that it is suitable for organ music.

And do you know how La Sociedad Española de Musicología wants a transfer of money to take place? Paypal? Creditcard?

These things are also on Qobuz - and here

https://www.sedem.es/es/catalogo/producto.asp?id=301
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premont

Quote from: Mandryka on December 09, 2021, 11:25:10 AM
These things are also on Qobuz - and here

https://www.sedem.es/es/catalogo/producto.asp?id=301

Thanks. I have sent La Sociedad Española de Musicología a mail to ask if they post to my country and - if they do - how they want the transfer of money to take place.
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bioluminescentsquid

Quote from: Selig on December 09, 2021, 04:29:37 AM


Looks like I chose a good time to start listening to 17C Spanish organ music  :)

Montserrat Torrent has completed her Arauxo integral! A final volume was recorded just last year in Tordesillas (San Pedro) and has been released together with the previous volumes.

Audio quality seems to be a little outdated, sort of like the Ayarra set. Can't comment much on the playing. I have a feeling that later Iberian organs (starting 18th century) tend to be a little more faceless and not as colorful as earlier ones, they got too distracted making horizontal trompetas.

bioluminescentsquid

Listened more to it and I'm starting to like it, as expected from a 94 year old, Montserrat Torrent isn't the most agile but still has very interesting ideas and registrations. Overall very calm and subtle. The audio quality is actually quite good, I made the judgement too early just based on samples.

Mandryka

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Listening to lots of recordings of Arauxo 59. The thing that has become clear is that my favourite, Ayarra, is by far the slowest. I don't think that's the only reason I like him most - it has something to do with the flow in the solo upper register too. Foccroulle on Valois the fastest, he takes it a more moderate pace in the new recording. There seems to be a consensus about tempo in Arauxo, with Ayarra the outlier.

The new Foccroulle has some harpsichord pieces, which is good. Here's the booklet

https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/68/000148486.pdf
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Mandryka

Cabanilles, Tiento lleno de cuarto tono on a gorgeous harpsichord, Sic transit gloria mundi! Not the slightest hint of the Spanish Inquisition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0lVcpt2Ahs&ab_channel=RolandLopes
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premont

Quote from: Mandryka on February 07, 2023, 06:10:12 AMCabanilles, Tiento lleno de cuarto tono on a gorgeous harpsichord,

Very interesting, thanks for posting. It would be great if more harpsichordists began to play more of Cabanilles' (and Arauxo's) organ works.
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Mandryka

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https://www.amazon.in/Taner-Fantasia-Iberian-Marie-Nishiyama/dp/B0001EJ3LM

I'd missed this one. Marie Nishyama is a good harpsichordistI think. I know her because of her work with Corina Marti and I think she worked with the Anthonello ensemble too. She finds a nice balance here between severity and melancholy - certainly worth a shot I'd say.  Some pretty successful Cabanilles, and even a Luis de Milan transcription.
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Mandryka

Quote from: Mandryka on October 28, 2021, 12:16:40 AM

This one is tremendous! Fabulous Heredia and the other minor composers sound fabulous too. It may be just that the sun is shining, but this sounds like the best of the Uriol bunch that I've heard.

I didn't realise that there was a whole organ school associated with Zaragoza. I have only been there once, and I remember a working city dominated by a cathedral with some impressive paintings and an old district with a lively market and a weird name for an Englishman - tubo. At the time I wasn't interested in organ so I never explored it, it was a filthy wet November in the early 1980s, I missed out on something obviously  . . . .

Anyway this is a good recording worth hearing probably many times.

Back to this this morning, I feel the same as before.
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Mandryka

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Quote from: bioluminescentsquid on June 12, 2017, 07:56:56 AM

Very impressed by this release, played on a small late 16th century Claviorganum entirely at octave pitch and above.

There's something here that reminds me of Leonhardt's Alpenlander recordings, with the intimacy of the small instrument and crispness that I've been looking for in Cabezon recordings - just like in the recording of Uriol or Erdas, both favorites.
I guess that this clean, lyrical quality is what makes Cabezon sound different from Sweelinck, although they were both great modal composers churning out variations and toccatas (or Tientos). Of course, Sweelinck's more on the meditative, perhaps plodding side who preferred long, carefully considered works to little bonbons. Arauxo's in the middle.

Discussion of organ here -- youtube subtitles with Spanish/English auto-translate execrable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sif6uYuLtyY&ab_channel=MuseudelaM%C3%BAsicadeBarcelona
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Mandryka

Striped Gazelle plays some Cabanilles on a harpsichord -- we can see him even if we can't name him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7sJsLY9IcE&t=29s&ab_channel=StripedGazelleMusic
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