POLL Brahms or Wagner?

[Ataraxia]

...had it not been for Wagner there would be no Mahler, no Bruckner, no Debussy, no Schoenberg...

Fine by me.

[North Star]

Fine by me.

[madaboutmahler]

I'm glad to see other people have Mahler hammers too. I'll get mine out in a minute.

[starrynight]

  Wider compass?? How much wider can it get than the Ring cycle, the ultra emorional Tristan, the lighthearted Meistersinger.

   No one but no one could tower over Wagner.......had it not been for Wagner there would be no Mahler, no Bruckner, no Debussy, no Schoenberg, Wagner is quite possibly the most influential man in the history of Classical music! In the words of Mahler "there was only Beethoven and Wagner...........

  The same can not be said of Brahms..........


  But hey what the hell do I know..........

   a vey unhappy marvin

Shame I don't care about influence then.    Wagner didn't compose any of the works of Mahler,  Bruckner, Debussy or Schoenberg. 

But as I said before (if anyone read it) I really don't think this poll is the best comparison.

[Gurn Blanston]

Fine by me.

You and me, as always, Dave.    0:)

[marvinbrown]

  To those of you who voted for Brahms because he composed string quartets, symphonies, piano concertos etc. should know that Wagner was not interested in those genres, in fact he was not interested in music for music's sake.  I seriously urge you to read up on Wagner's concept of Total Artwork, and then you will see that Brahms is no match for Wagner!

  Here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesamtkunstwerk


  marvin
 

[PaulR]

Not even close.....Brahms

[Leon]

Not even close.....Brahms

Something is amiss with the methodology of this poll: "banana" is last ...

[PaulR]

Something is amiss with the methodology of this poll: "banana" is last ...

are you suggesting banana was better than Wagner?   0:)

[Ataraxia]

You and me, as always, Dave.    0:)

[Leon]

are you suggesting banana was better than Wagner?   0:)

Certainly a dilemma, but yes, I think I am.

[Sergeant Rock]

Wow...this forum is full of Hanslicks 

Sarge

[Bulldog]

  To those of you who voted for Brahms because he composed string quartets, symphonies, piano concertos etc. should know that Wagner was not interested in those genres, in fact he was not interested in music for music's sake.   

I think most members are well aware that Wagner "was not interested in those genres" and voted accordingly.  This is a very simple poll, and Brahms crushes Wagner. 

I am interested in the composer you feel would make for a good poll - Wagner vs ?

[Gurn Blanston]

I think most members are well aware that Wagner "was not interested in those genres" and voted accordingly.  This is a very simple poll, and Brahms crushes Wagner. 

I am interested in the composer you feel would make for a good poll - Wagner vs ?

Verdi?

[Winky Willy]

Mahler hammers!! I still like a lead pipe and a wooden timpani box myself!

[Bulldog]

Verdi?

Sounds good to me.

[DavidW]

Verdi?

That was a good choice.  Both opera composers so the issue is clear.

[marvinbrown]

I think most members are well aware that Wagner "was not interested in those genres" and voted accordingly.  This is a very simple poll, and Brahms crushes Wagner. 

I am interested in the composer you feel would make for a good poll - Wagner vs ?

  Wagner vs BRAHMS is appropriate.  Remember these 2 polarised the field and were the principal rivals in the Battle of the Romantics.

  It is important to note that Brahms FAIlED to halt the progressive romantic movement that was championed by Wagner.


marvin

[Leon]

  Wagner vs BRAHMS is appropriate.  Remember these 2 polarised the field and were the principal rivals in the Battle of the Romantics.

  It is important to note that Brahms FAIlED to halt the progressive romantic movement that was championed by Wagner.


marvin

I think Brahms won out in the end.  After all you don't see women in glass tanks or large erector set machines performing Brahms these days. 

[starrynight]

  Wagner vs BRAHMS is appropriate.  Remember these 2 polarised the field and were the principal rivals in the Battle of the Romantics.

  It is important to note that Brahms FAIlED to halt the progressive romantic movement that was championed by Wagner.


marvin

Rivals for their fans but probably not to each other, I don't care about the fans.