POLL Brahms or Wagner?

[bwv 1080]

Wagner

When Brahms is not writing in classical forms, I love the music - the late piano pieces most of all.  In many pieces he can't seem to escape the shadow of Beethoven and Schumann - particularly the SQs and Piano Sonata.  I wish he had written more works like the two Rhapsodies op 79 where he just cuts loose

Schoenberg has been criticized (unfairly IMO) as simply Brahms with wrong notes

[North Star]

Wagner

When Brahms is not writing in classical forms, I love the music - the late piano pieces most of all.  In many pieces he can't seem to escape the shadow of Beethoven and Schumann - particularly the SQs and Piano Sonata.  I wish he had written more works like the two Rhapsodies op 79 where he just cuts loose

Schoenberg has been criticized (unfairly IMO) as simply Brahms with wrong notes

Quite obviously so. But what has this got to do with this poll?

If it makes you feel any better  , I'm sure he did write more pieces like Op. 79, he just burned them.   

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Both are great. Obvious banana.

[San Antone]

This poll has renewed my confidence in GMG.

[Karl Henning]

Hah!

[Brahmsian]

I prefer Brahms in all categories except opera. 

[Karl Henning]

I prefer Brahms even in the category Opera 

[Brahmsian]

I prefer Brahms even in the category Opera 

[Ken B]

This poll has renewed my confidence in GMG.

Yes, we dodged a chance to have to hang our heads in shame. I was worried though.
I haven't looked but I assume this is another one of the few times Sarge is wrong. Well, even Homer nods.

[jochanaan]

My name is Karl Henning, and I approve this message.

Hah!

Not "or;" "and."

[DavidW]

The poll is not even close because there was an exodus of Wagnerites a few years back.  They have found Valhalla and will not be returning. 

I voted for Brahms.

[Karl Henning]

I don't think, though, that the exodus was so populous that Wagner would have matched Brahms.

Wagner's good, but he's not that good 

[jochanaan]

It would be interesting to know who voted for what.  I suspect the active musicians among us voted "BANANA" in recognition that both B and W are masters without whom music would be much poorer.

[mn dave]

Brahgner.

Nah, just kidding. Brahms is da winnah.

[Sergeant Rock]

Yes, we dodged a chance to have to hang our heads in shame. I was worried though.
I haven't looked but I assume this is another one of the few times Sarge is wrong. Well, even Homer nods.

No, I was right...again  Between Brahms and Wagner, the Banana is the only logical choice.

Sarge

[Ken B]

No, I was right...again  Between Brahms and Wagner, the Banana is the only logical choice.

Sarge

Hmm. There is a rule lurking here I am having trouble wording pithily.
"Sarge is almost always right. Or banana."
Not quite snappy enough.

[Karl Henning]

It would be interesting to know who voted for what.  I suspect the active musicians among us voted "BANANA" in recognition that both B and W are masters without whom music would be much poorer.

Yes! It was worth enduring Wagner, at the least so that we might have Elgar and Schoenberg! 

[jochanaan]

Yes! It was worth enduring Wagner, at the least so that we might have Elgar and Schoenberg! 

And Stravinsky, whose main "influence" by Wagner was a rejection of everything he stood for. (Except for two Wagner tubas in The Rite of Spring--an exceptionally curious bit of orchestration in a very curiously orchestrated composition!)

[Karl Henning]

And Stravinsky, whose main "influence" by Wagner was a rejection of everything he stood for. (Except for two Wagner tubas in The Rite of Spring--an exceptionally curious bit of orchestration in a very curiously orchestrated composition!)

I've not looked into it . . . I wonder if that had been due to their being a normal choir within the Saisons Russes orchestra . . . .

[kishnevi]

No, I was right...again  Between Brahms and Wagner, the Banana is the only logical choice.

Sarge

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