Bruckner vs. Mahler

[starrynight]

Well. in terms of the music & musical influence, certainly. But I was trying to define personality types.
Schubert's lied Das sie hier gewesen is a surprising premonition of Wagner, and Wagner leads to Bruckner who leads to Mahler who leads to Schoenberg: continuity, not conflict, irrespective of our personal preferences.

Why all these versuses? I mean, Haydn v Mozart: were they opposites, enemies? Debussy/Ravel, Stravinsky/Prokofiev, Boulez/Berio?

Brahms vs Wagner: here's an opposition, or Lutoslawski vs Boulez: there's an other one...

Thank you. I agree   

Personality types is quite an interesting subject.  I probably don't know enough about Mahler as a person, but I suspect there may not have been another great composer who was quite like Beethoven as a person.

Haydn and Mozart were definitely friends.  Mozart admired what Haydn had achieved and probably the stable life and business acumen he seemed to have.  Mozart was more erratic it seems, a bit of a gambler, maybe more outspoken.  Nearer to Beethoven perhaps.  But Haydn first took Beethoven under his wing when he was still very young and so still felt he had a lot to prove, that wasn't the case with Mozart perhaps. 

[Lisztianwagner]

Brahms vs Wagner: here's an opposition

That should be incredibly interesting.

[Mirror Image]

That should be incredibly interesting.

I'd choose Wagner over Brahms any day of the week.

[Lisztianwagner]

I'd choose Wagner over Brahms any day of the week.

So would I, althought I love Brahms' music very much.

Out of curiosity , have you ever listened to anything by Brahms, John?

[Mirror Image]

Out of curiosity , have ever listened to anything by Brahms, John?

You're joking, right?

[Opus106]

Out of curiosity , have ever listened to anything by Brahms, John?

If he hasn't, this poll would have to be deleted. [Edit: Oops! I thought this was in the other poll.]

[Lisztianwagner]

You're joking, right?

I understand.

Do you find that music....how can I say....too imitative of the classical style?

[Mirror Image]

I understand.

Do you find that music....how can I say....too imitative of the classical style?

No, I think Brahms was an amazing composer, but I find that Wagner's musical language was more advanced and innovative than Brahms. Wagner also has had an emotional hold over me that Brahms does not.

[Winky Willy]

Bruckner the better man (possibly the best man to compose symphonies), Mahler the greater composer.