Recordings That You Are Considering

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kishnevi

Quote from: stingo on April 03, 2010, 08:54:47 AM
I agree. They're also going the 2 for 1 route too - the one CD (I don't know if it's the series name or just that CD) I saw is called Everybody's Mozart.

I have one of those--it comprises five of the symphonies from the Mackerras cycle (32, 35, 36, 38, and 39); for $9.99 it probably can't be beat if you don't have those performances already.  I've seen another one with that title devoted to opera excerpts; I have one called Everybody's Tchaikovsky which has Symphony 4 and Romeo and Juliet (Zinman, Baltimore SO); Symphony 5 (Previn, Royal PO), Piano Concerto 1 (Gutierrez, Zinman, Baltimore SO)--again, for $9.99 it can't be beat; and there's another devoted to Beethoven Symphonies. 

But $9.99 for reissues of older releases is probably not the best way to run a record label.

Coopmv

Quote from: kishnevi on April 03, 2010, 07:18:49 PM
But $9.99 for reissues of older releases is probably not the best way to run a record label.

No doubt.  Telarc also does not have the roster of artists like its much bigger competitors.  Its future does not look too promising.  If even EMI is struggling, Telarc will have an even tougher time ...

kishnevi

Quote from: Coopmv on April 03, 2010, 07:27:18 PM
No doubt.  Telarc also does not have the roster of artists like its much bigger competitors.  Its future does not look too promising.  If even EMI is struggling, Telarc will have an even tougher time ...

Indeed.  I saw something the other day that Simone Dinnerstein has now signed with EMI (which in the circumstances may be from fire to frying pan), and she was probably one of the bigger draws in their stable.

jlaurson

Quote from: Scarpia on April 03, 2010, 05:40:24 PM
Telarc has been dissolved.  The company that took them over has the rights to distribute their old recordings but there is no production company and the founders are gone.

Who told you that?   I'm still working with the Telarc people and regularly receive their new releases... so I am rather surprised to hear you say that.

Scarpia

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Quote from: jlaurson on April 03, 2010, 11:41:06 PM
Who told you that?   I'm still working with the Telarc people and regularly receive their new releases... so I am rather surprised to hear you say that.

Depends on how you define "Telarc."  In my mind, the label was defined by it's production team, which produced recordings of extraordinary technical quality.  It's roster of recording artists was never particularly distinguished.  The founders have quit the company, Telarc no longer produces its own recordings, so I don't think Telarc exists in any substantial sense.  You can say Decca still exists, but since they have closed their operations in London they just the red/blue division of Deutsche Grammophon.

In any case , 90% of the Telarc recordings I own were purchased in the past year (although mostly productions from before 2000).  There has been a huge influx of dirt-cheap Telarc recordings available on Berkshire Record Outlet.

Coopmv

Quote from: Scarpia on March 30, 2010, 11:28:26 PM
If you had read the interview with Hahn that accompanied the release you would have learned that the idea came, not from DG marketing, but from Hahn herself, who takes credit for convincing DG to support the project.

If this recording turns out to be a dud, it will be discontinued soon enough ...

Coopmv

Quote from: Scarpia on March 28, 2010, 07:44:49 PM
The same way that price cuts on buggy-whips wiped out profits for automobile manufacturers.   ::)

They are not even logical comparisons ...   ???

Brian

Quote from: Scarpia on April 04, 2010, 07:26:12 AMIt's roster of recording artists was never particularly distinguished.

Actually, Telarc has recorded Andre Previn, the Atlanta Symphony and Robert Spano, Paavo Jarvi, the Cleveland Orchestra with Christoph Dohnanyi, Sir Charles Mackerras, Garrick Ohlsson, Donald Runnicles, the London Symphony Orchestra with Jerry Goldsmith, the Vienna Philharmonic, and Lorin Maazel.

The new erato

Quote from: Coopmv on April 04, 2010, 03:30:31 PM
If this recording turns out to be a dud, it will be discontinued soon enough ...
It sales that decides, not whether it's a dud. For die-hard fans, these two are NOT, or extremely weakly, correlated.

Daverz

Quote from: Brian on April 06, 2010, 06:14:36 AM
Actually, Telarc has recorded Andre Previn, the Atlanta Symphony and Robert Spano, Paavo Jarvi, the Cleveland Orchestra with Christoph Dohnanyi, Sir Charles Mackerras, Garrick Ohlsson, Donald Runnicles, the London Symphony Orchestra with Jerry Goldsmith, the Vienna Philharmonic, and Lorin Maazel.

I think many of the Lopez-Cobos/Cincinatti recordings are excellent, including some good Bruckner and Mahler recordings.  I'll take them over a "star" like Sir Simon any day.

Bulldog

Quote from: Daverz on April 06, 2010, 08:59:58 AM
I think many of the Lopez-Cobos/Cincinatti recordings are excellent, including some good Bruckner and Mahler recordings.  I'll take them over a "star" like Sir Simon any day.

My basic problem with Telarc has been its sorry cadre of keyboardists led by Michael Murray and John O'Conor.  Each of them recorded about 40 discs, and none of those recordings are worth much.

Scarpia

Quote from: Brian on April 06, 2010, 06:14:36 AM
Actually, Telarc has recorded Andre Previn, the Atlanta Symphony and Robert Spano, Paavo Jarvi, the Cleveland Orchestra with Christoph Dohnanyi, Sir Charles Mackerras, Garrick Ohlsson, Donald Runnicles, the London Symphony Orchestra with Jerry Goldsmith, the Vienna Philharmonic, and Lorin Maazel.

The number of VPO recordings can be counted on one hand.  The Mackerras recordings are indeed excellent, the Cleveland recordings likewise.  But the bulk of the recordings from recent years are of the Jarvi/Cincinnati, Cobos/Cincinatti, Atlanta/Levi, Atlanta/Spano variety, which for me is not particularly distinguished.


Keemun

Here are a couple of discs I'm considering:

 


Music is the mediator between the spiritual and the sensual life. - Ludwig van Beethoven

Coopmv

Quote from: erato on April 06, 2010, 06:59:43 AM
It sales that decides, not whether it's a dud. For die-hard fans, these two are NOT, or extremely weakly, correlated.

If a CD sells poorly, doesn't it qualify as a dud?

SonicMan46

Quote from: Bulldog on April 06, 2010, 02:19:09 PM
My basic problem with Telarc has been its sorry cadre of keyboardists led by Michael Murray and John O'Conor.  Each of them recorded about 40 discs, and none of those recordings are worth much.

In general, I don't buy a lot of Telarc recordings and have actually replaced a number over the years; but concerning John O'Conor, I have owned his John Field Nocturnes disc from the beginning, and still enjoy - but have not purchased much else by this pianist.   :)


Coopmv

Quote from: SonicMan on April 06, 2010, 05:08:36 PM
In general, I don't buy a lot of Telarc recordings and have actually replaced a number over the years; but concerning John O'Conor, I have owned his John Field Nocturnes disc from the beginning, and still enjoy - but have not purchased much else by this pianist.   :)



Don't know much about John O'Conor but have read somewhere that he was a student of the great Wilhelm Kempff.  Michael Murray is a lousy organist, which I found out over WNCN, the now defunct second NYC classical FM over twenty years ago.  All in all, I have owned 95% of all the Telarc releases that are worth owning - mainly those by Mackerras, Dohnanyi, Previn and Maazel.

SonicMan46

Quote from: Coopmv on April 06, 2010, 04:59:47 PM
If a CD sells poorly, doesn't it qualify as a dud?

Stuart - not sure that the statement above is true; classical music recordings account for only 3% or so (have not checked recently) of CD purchases, so many can probably be considered as 'duds' by your definition.

Now, I've purchased MUCHO CDs from BRO and many of these fall into the definition of 'duds', as defined, i.e. not selling well, but I must say that I've acquired hundreds of wonderful classical performances through this service - selling poorly from a classical music perspective has little to do w/ the quality of the performance(s) - but hey just my opinion - Dave  :)

Coopmv

Quote from: SonicMan on April 06, 2010, 05:14:09 PM
Stuart - not sure that the statement above is true; classical music recordings account for only 3% or so (have not checked recently) of CD purchases, so many can probably be considered as 'duds' by your definition.

Now, I've purchased MUCHO CDs from BRO and many of these fall into the definition of 'duds', as defined, i.e. not selling well, but I must say that I've acquired hundreds of wonderful classical performances through this service - selling poorly from a classical music perspective has little to do w/ the quality of the performance(s) - but hey just my opinion - Dave  :)

Dave,

Comparisons naturally have to be done within the classical genre.  Comparing a Beatles CD to a classical CD makes no sense at all.

Bulldog

Quote from: Coopmv on April 06, 2010, 04:59:47 PM
If a CD sells poorly, doesn't it qualify as a dud?

Only to bean counters.

Scarpia

Quote from: Bulldog on April 06, 2010, 02:19:09 PM
My basic problem with Telarc has been its sorry cadre of keyboardists led by Michael Murray and John O'Conor.  Each of them recorded about 40 discs, and none of those recordings are worth much.

O'Conor's recordings of the Mozart Concerti are definitely worth hearing, IMO.