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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #16340 on: September 19, 2021, 05:47:21 PM »
Any fans or detractors of this? Should I buy if I don't have any recordings of NV and only two of Konzertmuzik (Lenny/Sony and Steinberg)?



EDIT: Seeing a comment from Daverz that this is curiously lifeless compared to Steinberg and Ormandy.
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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #16341 on: September 19, 2021, 06:45:49 PM »
Any fans or detractors of this? Should I buy if I don't have any recordings of NV and only two of Konzertmuzik (Lenny/Sony and Steinberg)?



EDIT: Seeing a comment from Daverz that this is curiously lifeless compared to Steinberg and Ormandy.

I’d venture further and say that the Albert CPO and Blomstedt performances are also better than Janowski. I generally like Janowski’s conducting, but I don’t find him to be too inspiring in Hindemith.
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« Reply #16342 on: September 20, 2021, 08:47:24 AM »
Any fans or detractors of this? Should I buy if I don't have any recordings of NV and only two of Konzertmuzik (Lenny/Sony and Steinberg)?



EDIT: Seeing a comment from Daverz that this is curiously lifeless compared to Steinberg and Ormandy.

No one did Hindemith better than Hindemith.



There's also a DG collection of Hindemith conducting Hindemith.

I also have the cpo complete edition, which are generally very good and in good sound. The other great set is the Chailly recordings of the Kammermusik.

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« Reply #16343 on: September 20, 2021, 09:21:26 AM »
For a modern sound Nobilissima Visione consider Blomstedt (Decca, will get you another Brass/strings op.50 and Schwanendreher viola concerto) or Kegel (a double on Berlin Classics with Mathis symphony, Symphony in Eb, Trumpet concerto, Sinfonia serena).
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« Reply #16344 on: September 20, 2021, 10:22:58 AM »
No one did Hindemith better than Hindemith.



There's also a DG collection of Hindemith conducting Hindemith.

I also have the cpo complete edition, which are generally very good and in good sound. The other great set is the Chailly recordings of the Kammermusik.

There’s several great sets of Hindemith out there. The Kammermusik series has been recorded several times for example.
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« Reply #16345 on: September 27, 2021, 06:37:22 PM »
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« Reply #16346 on: September 30, 2021, 11:22:05 AM »


Actually no need to buy it -- just found it on youtube.

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« Reply #16347 on: October 02, 2021, 09:17:53 AM »
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« Reply #16348 on: October 02, 2021, 10:44:47 AM »


Yes interesting enough according to the tracklist:

Tracklist
1      Pierre Attaingnant(c.1500-1553)- Bone Jesu Dulcissime (Motet de Mathieu Gascongne, from "Treze Motets")   2:48
2      Pierre (c.1500-1553- Basse Danse (from "Quatorze Gaillardes-1531)   1:03
3      Andrea Gabrieli(1520-1586) -Pass'e mezzo antico   5:35
4      Hugh Aston(C.1485-?)-a Hornpype   4:34
5      Anonymous(c.1530)-My Lady Careys Dompe, from Ms. R. App.58, British Museum   3:14
6      William Byrd(1534-1623) Pavan: The Earle of Salisbury, from "Parthenia"(1611)   2:20
7      Girolamo Cavazzoni (c.1524-bef.1577)- Canzon sopra Falt d'Argens(1543)   3:32
8      Antonio Valente(1520-16009-la Romanesca con cinque mutanze from "Intavolatura de cimbalo (Naples,1575)   3:33
9      Luys de Narvaez(XVI sec.)-Quatro diferencias sobre "Guárdame las vacas(1538)   2:53
10      Antonio Carreira(c.1520-c.1589) Ave Maria a 4   4:43
11      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Himno a 3   1:41
12      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Himno XIX "Pange Lingua IV"   4:30
13      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Diferencias sobre el Canto Llano del Caballero   3:56
14      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Tiento del séptimo tono sobre" Cum santo Spiritu"de la Misa"Beata Virgine" de Josquin des Prés   3:24
15      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)- Diferencias sobre el Villancico "Quién te me enojó,Ysabel?"   7:49
16      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Pavana Italiana   3:22

But where to get it for a reasonable amount?
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« Reply #16349 on: October 02, 2021, 11:53:00 AM »
Yes interesting enough according to the tracklist:

Tracklist
1      Pierre Attaingnant(c.1500-1553)- Bone Jesu Dulcissime (Motet de Mathieu Gascongne, from "Treze Motets")   2:48
2      Pierre (c.1500-1553- Basse Danse (from "Quatorze Gaillardes-1531)   1:03
3      Andrea Gabrieli(1520-1586) -Pass'e mezzo antico   5:35
4      Hugh Aston(C.1485-?)-a Hornpype   4:34
5      Anonymous(c.1530)-My Lady Careys Dompe, from Ms. R. App.58, British Museum   3:14
6      William Byrd(1534-1623) Pavan: The Earle of Salisbury, from "Parthenia"(1611)   2:20
7      Girolamo Cavazzoni (c.1524-bef.1577)- Canzon sopra Falt d'Argens(1543)   3:32
8      Antonio Valente(1520-16009-la Romanesca con cinque mutanze from "Intavolatura de cimbalo (Naples,1575)   3:33
9      Luys de Narvaez(XVI sec.)-Quatro diferencias sobre "Guárdame las vacas(1538)   2:53
10      Antonio Carreira(c.1520-c.1589) Ave Maria a 4   4:43
11      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Himno a 3   1:41
12      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Himno XIX "Pange Lingua IV"   4:30
13      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Diferencias sobre el Canto Llano del Caballero   3:56
14      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Tiento del séptimo tono sobre" Cum santo Spiritu"de la Misa"Beata Virgine" de Josquin des Prés   3:24
15      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)- Diferencias sobre el Villancico "Quién te me enojó,Ysabel?"   7:49
16      Antonio de Cabezón(1510-1566)-Pavana Italiana   3:22

But where to get it for a reasonable amount?

Discogs had it but it has disappeared. He who hesitates is lost!
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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #16350 on: October 02, 2021, 12:40:33 PM »
Discogs had it but it has disappeared. He who hesitates is lost!

This is where I got the tracklist, but I didn't observe, that they had one for sale.
A pity, because Bernard Brauchli seems to be a well respected musician among connaisseurs.
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« Reply #16351 on: October 02, 2021, 07:45:49 PM »
This is where I got the tracklist, but I didn't observe, that they had one for sale.
A pity, because Bernard Brauchli seems to be a well respected musician among connaisseurs.

Got it, it had disappeared because they had invoiced me. Listening to this rather beautiful CD at the moment


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« Reply #16352 on: October 03, 2021, 06:50:07 AM »
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« Reply #16353 on: October 03, 2021, 08:43:20 AM »
Got it, it had disappeared because they had invoiced me.

You are a lucky guy.  :)

Quote from: Mandryka
Listening to this rather beautiful CD at the moment



Yes, beautiful indeed. Because of the virtues of this CD I purchased some years ago his French suites, but they are faceless and disappointing, particularly the ones he plays on clavichord..
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« Reply #16354 on: October 03, 2021, 05:50:05 PM »


Not yet released? Amazon knoweth it not.
TBH my motivation is the composer not the performer.

BTW, would you consider this worth spending $30 on?
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« Reply #16355 on: October 17, 2021, 07:16:58 PM »
Somehow I have a thing about Vox recordings. Should I go for Vols. 1 and 2?

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« Reply #16356 on: October 17, 2021, 08:11:59 PM »
Somehow I have a thing about Vox recordings. Should I go for Vols. 1 and 2?

No! If you don't own Boulez, Martinon, Haitink or Cluytens in this repertoire, then you should consider them first. There's also a nice box set on Naxos:

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« Reply #16357 on: October 17, 2021, 08:16:25 PM »
No! If you don't own Boulez, Martinon, Haitink or Cluytens in this repertoire, then you should consider them first. There's also a nice box set on Naxos:



Except for the Cluyten, I have everything you said and a few other sets. I guess you don’t have good opinion on the Vox sets. The Naxos box is a fun music.

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« Reply #16358 on: October 17, 2021, 08:21:35 PM »
Except for the Cluyten, I have everything you said and a few other sets. I guess you don’t have good opinion on the Vox sets. The Naxos box is a fun music.

Yeah, I mean Vox has done some good work, but it's kind of like would I rather drive a Lamborghini or a beat up old falling apart Pontiac that only has three wheels? BIS has a great Debussy orchestral series under Lan Shui that's worth looking into as well.
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« Reply #16359 on: October 17, 2021, 08:23:48 PM »
Yeah, I mean Vox has done some good work, but it's kind of like would I rather drive a Lamborghini or a beat up old falling apart Pontiac that only has three wheels? BIS has a great Debussy orchestral series under Lan Shui that's worth looking into as well.

Ok. Thank you for the candid opinion!