Recordings That You Are Considering

[MN Dave]

Whadda ya mean....who's on first? 

I don't know. George says he doesn't own something, then he does. Or maybe he sold it. It's all rather cryptic.   

[Brian]

Prokofiev and Weller



I was considering Jarvi's cycle on Chandos, but listening via Naxos Music Library I can tell that the fabled Chandos sound is at its most distant, and most echoey, in those discs.

[Harry]

Prokofiev and Weller


I was considering Jarvi's cycle on Chandos, but listening via Naxos Music Library I can tell that the fabled Chandos sound is at its most distant, and most echoey, in those discs.

The sound is a bit echoey, but not distant, but vibrant and rather direct. That where the days of Chandos, when the enginners let the venue speak for it self. Do not be fooled by what you have heard online. And if you really dislike them, you can send them to me, and I find something in my collection to send you.

[Coopmv]

Prokofiev and Weller



I was considering Jarvi's cycle on Chandos, but listening via Naxos Music Library I can tell that the fabled Chandos sound is at its most distant, and most echoey, in those discs.

I am lucky in that I have never gotten any Chandos CD that is a dud ...

[SonicMan46]

Prokofiev and Weller

 

I was considering Jarvi's cycle on Chandos, but listening via Naxos Music Library I can tell that the fabled Chandos sound is at its most distant, and most echoey, in those discs.

Brian - I have two sets of these symphonies, the Jarvi & Kitajenko (latter added above) - I'd have to agree w/ Harry on the Jarvi (the audio snippets likely do not reflect the recordings - these are good!); however, I prefer the Kitajenko, which is a knockout project (and not that expensive) - rave reviews by Scott M. HERE on Amazon.  In fact, I just ordered Kitajenko's Shosty symphony box influenced by these Prokofiev recordings - Dave 

[Coopmv]

Brian - I have two sets of these symphonies, the Jarvi & Kitajenko (latter added above) - I'd have to agree w/ Harry on the Jarvi (the audio snippets likely do not reflect the recordings - these are good!); however, I prefer the Kitajenko, which is a knockout project (and not that expensive) - rave reviews by Scott M. HERE on Amazon.  In fact, I just ordered Kitajenko's Shosty symphony box influenced by these Prokofiev recordings - Dave 

To me, Prokofiev and Mahler fall into the same category - they are tough nuts to crack.  Not sure if Bill (aka Bogey) has the same problem with Prokofiev as I do ...

[SonicMan46]

To me, Prokofiev and Mahler fall into the same category - they are tough nuts to crack.  Not sure if Bill (aka Bogey) has the same problem with Prokofiev as I do ...

Now, Stuart, this is a 'silly' comparison, i.e. Mahler vs. Prokofiev; YES, both are different vs. earlier Romantic (or even Classical) composers, but different birth dates, different countries, and different personal experiences - must be considered separately relative to their own 'personal & cultural' influences - if you don't like either of these composers, then fine!  But, if one wants to explore their symphonic output, my first suggestion is to not compare the two - Dave 

[Coopmv]

Now, Stuart, this is a 'silly' comparison, i.e. Mahler vs. Prokofiev; YES, both are different vs. earlier Romantic (or even Classical) composers, but different birth dates, different countries, and different personal experiences - must be considered separately relative to their own 'personal & cultural' influences - if you don't like either of these composers, then fine!  But, if one wants to explore their symphonic output, my first suggestion is to not compare the two - Dave 

Dave,

I am a melody guy.  Any composers that do not have works that have memorable melodies will have a hard-sell job.  As far as I am concerned, Mahler and Profokiev generally come up short in this department ...

[springrite]

Hmm... replace Arrau LPs with CDs from China or wait until re-issued on Decca... ?

You wouldn't have a link to a trustworthy source, do you?

No, I saw them in a store I frequent.

[Coopmv]

No, I saw them in a store I frequent.

Paul, just out of curiosity, do the pirates in China even make fake copies of classical music? 

[springrite]

Paul, just out of curiosity, do the pirates in China even make fake copies of classical music?

Mostly on the bestsellers like Vienna New Year's Eve concert. Not a big enough market to sell volume on the works that you and I may be interested.

[Coopmv]

Mostly on the bestsellers like Vienna New Year's Eve concert. Not a big enough market to sell volume on the works that you and I may be interested.

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So counterfeits are the least of your concern.  You are more concerned about corrupt custom officials who decide to keep your CD's for personal enjoyment ...

[Brian]

Mostly on the bestsellers like Vienna New Year's Eve concert. Not a big enough market to sell volume on the works that you and I may be interested.

Indeed! My father once returned from China with a pirated Vienna New Year's DVD. But the pirates had bungled the job - there was a picture, but no audio!

[Coopmv]

Indeed! My father once returned from China with a pirated Vienna New Year's DVD. But the pirates had bungled the job - there was a picture, but no audio!

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Do enjoy the 21st century silence movie ...   

[springrite]

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So counterfeits are the least of your concern.  You are more concerned about corrupt custom officials who decide to keep your CD's for personal enjoyment ...

Contrary to certain propaganda, that kind of things do NOT happend AT ALL.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Contrary to certain propaganda, that kind of things do NOT happend AT ALL.

We're probably lucky most customs agents all over the world aren't classical fans!

[MN Dave]

Dave,

I am a melody guy.  Any composers that do not have works that have memorable melodies will have a hard-sell job.  As far as I am concerned, Mahler and Profokiev generally come up short in this department ...

Believe it or not, Prokofiev can be quite the melody guy.

[springrite]

We're probably lucky most customs agents all over the world aren't classical fans!

Yes, that is probably right. On the other hand, the belief that in non-western world there ar no rules and public servants are nothing but a bunch of hooligans are the things that feeds the kind of bias and even hatred that leads to ...

Well, this is not the diner so I will stop. 

[Coopmv]

Contrary to certain propaganda, that kind of things do NOT happend AT ALL.

Perhaps the custom officials generally do not care for classical music, particularly western classical music?

[springrite]

Perhaps the custom officials generally do not care for classical music, particularly western classical music?

See my post above.