Recordings That You Are Considering

[mahler10th]

To be released March 1st, but seemingly available as a lossless download for £9.99.  Atterberg, Orchestral Works, VOLUME 1, N Jarvi - GSO



I'll get the download first, then the real deal on March 1st.

http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=CHAN%205116

I am up late because I am watching...er...fighting on TV (MMA).   

[Brian]

To be released March 1st, but seemingly available as a lossless download for £9.99.  Atterberg, Orchestral Works, VOLUME 1, N Jarvi - GSO



I'll get the download first, then the real deal on March 1st.

http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=CHAN%205116

I am up late because I am watching...er...fighting on TV (MMA).   

Symphony No 6..........Rasilainen....Jarvi
First mvt......................9:09.............8:52
Second mvt.................12:58...........9:47
Third mvt.....................9:00.............8:20
Symphony No 4..........Rasilainen....Jarvi
First mvt......................5:50............5:46
Second mvt.................8:11............7:10
Third mvt....................1:20.............1:23
Fourth mvt..................5:43.............5:37
Varmland Rhapsody..9:17.............7:57

I must say I'm pretty impressed by the sound clips of the fast movements - in large part because of the richness of the orchestral sound and Chandos' engineering. But Rasilainen is the clear winner for the first howevermany seconds of the Rhapsody.

Upgraded to "must-hear" status for sure, and I predict it will be inside of a decade before the Atterberg revival reaches something akin to the classical-world mainstream.

[Todd]

More recommendable, then, if you already know you like the violinist.

I'm actually more interested in hearing Jumppanen, in anticipation of is upcoming LvB cycle.

[Florestan]

Please complete the sentence: If you like ... then you'll like Berwald too. 

[Brian]

Please complete the sentence: If you like ... then you'll like Berwald too. 

I think if you imagined Berlioz orchestrating Schumann, you might be halfway there. The Sinfonie singuliere, which truly is a mandatory listen for anyone who likes romantic music, is sort of like the inside-out prototype of Franck's D minor symphony: similar low quiet mysterious opening, similar scherzo outburst in the middle of the slow movement, and similar powerful brass section, but all the moods are reversed, so it's the finale that's full of menace and the first two movements are incredibly sunny.

There's a lot of playfulness. In fact one of his short works is Elfenspiel, Play of the Elves.

[Florestan]

Thank you, Brian. Elfenspiel is included in the set. I'm sold. 

[Octave]

re: Berwald by Dausgaard/DNSO/Brilliant 2cd:

I think if you imagined Berlioz orchestrating Schumann, you might be halfway there. The Sinfonie singuliere, which truly is a mandatory listen for anyone who likes romantic music, is sort of like the inside-out prototype of Franck's D minor symphony: similar low quiet mysterious opening, similar scherzo outburst in the middle of the slow movement, and similar powerful brass section, but all the moods are reversed, so it's the finale that's full of menace and the first two movements are incredibly sunny.

There's a lot of playfulness. In fact one of his short works is Elfenspiel, Play of the Elves.

Brian or anyone, how do the Dausgaard recordings compare to the older ones by Ulf Björlin (EMI)?  Those are the only ones I know, and though I enjoyed them, I haven't explored further.

[Brian]

re: Berwald by Dausgaard/DNSO/Brilliant 2cd:

Brian or anyone, how do the Dausgaard recordings compare to the older ones by Ulf Björlin (EMI)?  Those are the only ones I know, and though I enjoyed them, I haven't explored further.

The Björlin are the only ones I know, too, although I had an enjoyable listen to the Kamu/Naxos Singuliere once upon a time.

[Daverz]

The Björlin are the only ones I know, too, although I had an enjoyable listen to the Kamu/Naxos Singuliere once upon a time.

The only complete set I have is Goodman, which is pretty good.  My favorite for 3 & 4 is Ehrling on Bluebell.  I believe the recording was made by Ken Wilkinson.

[Fafner]

Ralph Vaughan Williams - Symphony No. 5
Philharmonia Orchestra, Sir John Barbirolli

(part of the "Het Concertgebouw - British Season" compilation)


EDIT: this should of course go to the What are you listening to thread. I am not considering the recording, I already have it. I found the 4 disc box in a bargain bin for about $4 and it was a damn good purchase.

[Todd]

Maybe - but only after Byron Janis is safely procured.

[Octave]

After having such a fine time with Christophe Coin's recording of the Haydn cello concertos with Hogwood, I find myself interested in Wispelwey's recording with Florilegium.  I see that the single disc with the two concertos plus an arrangement of Symph #104 is included in this box set from Channel.  Are the other performances well worth hearing?

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Peter Wispelwey: MILESTONES - SIX CELLO CONCERTI SPANNING 200 YEARS (Channel, 4cd)

[Wakefield]

After having such a fine time with Christophe Coin's recording of the Haydn cello concertos with Hogwood, I find myself interested in Wispelwey's recording with Florilegium.  I see that the single disc with the two concertos plus an arrangement of Symph #104 is included in this box set from Channel.  Are the other performances well worth hearing?

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Peter Wispelwey: MILESTONES - SIX CELLO CONCERTI SPANNING 200 YEARS (Channel, 4cd)

It has been not a pacific issue here, but I think you will enjoy this:

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I have the Channel Classics CD that you refer and it's good, but, IMO, not mandatory.

BTW, I also recalled this one:

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Highly recommended.

(You can hear it on YouTube)

[Octave]

Thanks a lot for that input, GS.

A couple more I'm thinking about:

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Beethoven by Dohnányi/Cleveland (Telarc)
Actually, the one I'm thinking of getting is a 2cd with #4, 8, and 9; but for the moment I don't see an Amazon page for it.  I heard one extremely strong piece of GMG praise for Dohnányi's #9, I'm assuming it's this one; unfortunately, I cannot find who that recommendation was from.

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Brahms cello/piano by Bailey/Pratt
(I also saw one strong [implied] recommendation of this at GMG.)

[Brian]

unfortunately, I cannot find who that recommendation was from.

More or less everybody. It's a terrific Ninth.

[Octave]

Cheers, Brian.

And this, though I suppose a bit more has been said about it at GMG:

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Brahms symphs by Harnoncourt

Not sure how it compares to the competition; how HIP is this recording?  I heard this Harnoncourt referred to as  "chamber-ish" reading of the symphonies, and that really intrigues me.  It seems maybe there's HIPper recordings from Manze and Mackerras (?) that have received encomia too.  I need to do a bit more digging.  Also interested in (quite non-HIP) G. Wand cycle, but I might choose to rely on a reissue for that.

[kishnevi]

Cheers, Brian.

And this, though I suppose a bit more has been said about it at GMG:

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Brahms symphs by Harnoncourt

Not sure how it compares to the competition; how HIP is this recording?  I heard this Harnoncourt referred to as  "chamber-ish" reading of the symphonies, and that really intrigues me.  It seems maybe there's HIPper recordings from Manze and Mackerras (?) that have received encomia too.  I need to do a bit more digging.  Also interested in (quite non-HIP) G. Wand cycle, but I might choose to rely on a reissue for that.

I'll let you know.

I just ordered it. It will make a nice change of pace among all those Beethoven sets now en route to me.

You might want to consider Gardiner's Brahms.  Granted, it's a series (and includes the German Requiem) and not particularly cheap,  but it includes a lot of extras from Bach, Schutz, Schubert, Mendelssohn, and Brahms himself (mostly choral stuff) that help put the symphonies in musical context.   And I think the performances of the symphonies themselves are rather good.

Re: Bailey/Pratt Brahms
It's fine, but you need not make it a high priority, or choose it over another performance of those works.  Granted,  I'm not an enthusiast for these works, so I'm easy to please.

If you're interested in Bailey,  try his Beethoven sonatas with Simone Dinnerstein, or his (brand new) Elgar concerto with the Indianapolis Symphony.

Re: Dohnanyi
Yes, you want to get as much of his Beethoven as possible.  You might be able to find the double CDs in a local brick and mortar--that's where I got mine.  There are two: the one you mentioned, and a second with four more symphonies.  Symphonies 3 and 6 are available only as single issues, for some reason;  I ordered them on Amazon MP.

Re: Wispelwey
Can't help you there,  but the Vivaldi recording Gordon suggested is indeed very good.

[Brian]

Octave,

The Mackerras Brahms is on my want-list. The Harnoncourt Brahms I purchased in the middle of last year, but so far, responsible listener to new acquisitions that I am, I've only heard the Third, which was a superb account of an unusual variety - operatic, in a way, because it's very dramatic and dark, with both speed and sweep.

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Presto is holding a clearance, and I'm considering these.



The above are $7 each; I've never heard the Mozart Mass in C minor, K427, but I do have the Naxos reading of the Verdi requiem.

For $10, a DVD of Gerald Finley and the OAE doing Don Giovanni:



And these are $10-12 a pop:



Anything here essential or definitely non-?

[kishnevi]

Octave,

The Mackerras Brahms is on my want-list. The Harnoncourt Brahms I purchased in the middle of last year, but so far, responsible listener to new acquisitions that I am, I've only heard the Third, which was a superb account of an unusual variety - operatic, in a way, because it's very dramatic and dark, with both speed and sweep.

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Presto is holding a clearance, and I'm considering these.

Anything here essential or definitely non-?

I like the Pappano recording of the Requiem; the fact that I first heard it about the same time as I first heard Davis on LSO Live only deepened that impression.   My favorite is the all star recording by Solti with Pavarotti and Sutherland and I forget who else as the soloists (Horne?), made when those singers were essentially at the height of their powers. 

I'd say the Beecham may not be essential, but can easily pass for one.  The others I have no experience with.

[Mirror Image]

I'd say the Beecham may not be essential, but can easily pass for one.  The others I have no experience with.

The Beecham is only essential if you like Delius' music, if not, then it's not going to be something worth purchasing just to have it. Speaking of not wanting anything, I'm currently in the process of selling off my Beethoven and Mozart collection. Not that there's much to sell.

Anyone interested in Harnoncourt's Beethoven set, then don't hesitate to message me here. This is the one I'm selling:

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