Started by Discobole, February 19, 2012, 09:08:10 AM
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Quote from: Scots John on February 24, 2012, 05:54:35 PMD1 in the yellow group. My favourite.I am having trouble understanding why this has been eliminated, or is due for elimination. Really. And even worse is A1 being at the top, which was my least favourite. I am starting to think I listen to music the wrong way round or upside down. I can find NOTHING in A1 to heartily recommend it and almost everything in D1 to advocate and promote it. But so many others hear it the other way around. It is mighty confounding, I can only hope the result will provide me with some redemption.
Quote from: Discobole on February 25, 2012, 02:44:18 AMmszczuj, you have two A1 and no B2 in your ranking
Quote from: Discobole on February 25, 2012, 02:44:18 AMScots John, don't you worry, you're not the only one who likes D1, and liking it is very understandable. After all, it has progressed to the second round, when so many great interpretations have already been eliminated ! Actually, just so you know, I listened to almost 50 versions, sometimes several times, to make the first selection of 20. And it was not an easy job. Therefore there are only great versions here. Everyone is entitled to like a different one among these two groups. The blind comparison is not really meant to say this one is better and the other is bad, but tries to define, by agregating everyone's preference, what would be the "ideal" recording. That means it can hardly be the more personal or original one.Just to take an example, when Celibidache is in a comparison like that (I don't say he is this time, but I don't say he's not ), he is frequently eliminated very quicly. That certainly doesn't mean he was not a great conductor, and that is recordings are bad. He is a myth, his interpretations are, but you listen to them because it's Celibidache, not because it's Beethoven or Schumann or Bruckner...
Quote from: Discobole on February 25, 2012, 01:08:56 PMThe problem with this idea is that it would actually not reflect as well everyone's preferences. If one person votes for a version A and everyone else for B, then the pro-A is forgotten. Voting for only one version per person would lead to a problem which would be similar of the Tocquevillian critique against democracy (tyranny of the majority). You would then not define the "ideal reference recording" of a work, but the interpretation which is liked by most people. This is not the aim of a blind comparison, for that you just need to see the charts on Amazon.The Condorcet system allows to define which is the most consensual recording, the version in which qualities are generally recognized by everyone, and about which very few flaws are . A version can even win such a comparison without ever being first in the votes.Again, that doesn't mean this is the only recording you need to know, or the best one, or everyone's favourite. This is just a little exercise. And this is an occasion to hear some different interpretations too : the result is interesting but the most interesting part is hearing new things, new points of view on a particular musical work.
Quote from: Discobole on February 25, 2012, 02:44:18 AMmszczuj, you have two A1 and no B2 in your ranking Scots John, don't you worry, you're not the only one ...
Quote from: Discobole on February 26, 2012, 04:53:30 AM9 hours to go (and 6 votes to wait for).
Quote from: Discobole on February 26, 2012, 04:28:43 AMBeethoven's Große Fuge, his original finale for quartet op. 130 : I'm currently starting to listen more than 40 versions to do the selection).
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