Verdi vs. Wagner

Started by Bulldog, February 28, 2012, 12:45:54 PM

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Which composer do you prefer?

Verdi
11 (55%)
Wagner
9 (45%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: March 04, 2012, 12:45:54 PM

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Jo498

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April 17, 2022, 09:06:19 AM
Wagner supposedly said that Verdi treated the orchestra like "a giant guitar" but this was probably the Rigoletto, La Traviata stage of Verdi. Where it is obviously an ironic exaggeration but not totally off the mark.
(FWIW I agree that Wagner without words does not work as well as some people claim but this also does not change the valid point that his specific operatic-symphonic style changed not only opera.)
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Florestan

#41
April 17, 2022, 09:12:06 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on April 17, 2022, 09:06:19 AM
Wagner supposedly said that Verdi treated the orchestra like "a giant guitar" but this was probably the Rigoletto, La Traviata stage of Verdi.

That is, his best stage.  ;D

Seriously now, I think Mandryka is right: Verdi and Wagner inhabit completely different worlds, their esthetic is completely different, their artistic goals are completely different, they are like apples and oranges.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

ritter

#42
April 17, 2022, 01:13:45 PM Last Edit: May 01, 2022, 05:57:04 AM by ritter
Quote from: Florestan on April 17, 2022, 09:12:06 AM

....Verdi and Wagner inhabit completely different worlds, their esthetic is completely different, their artistic goals are completely different, they are like apples and oranges.
Yep, completely different worlds; a bit like comparing, I don't know, Lucky Luke to Thomas Mann?  ;D
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