Ivo Malec!

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T. D.

Quote from: Mandryka on November 25, 2024, 02:03:00 AMI think Triola and Luminetudes are rather good, esp Triola.

Those works both feature musique concrète iirc...Musique concrète just doesn't seem to have staying power for me. I think it's cool, enjoy a few listens, but the recordings end up not being played very often and some of the electronics sound rather dated. Matter of taste, no value judgments involved.

Mandryka

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Quote from: T. D. on November 25, 2024, 09:49:32 AMThose works both feature musique concrète iirc...

I don't think so -- try ombra from Triola

https://youtu.be/XQvnWj7TORM?t=580

 
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T. D.

Thanks. I misspoke about "concrete". Triola overall is really quite good electronic music! Perhaps I shouldn't have sold the set. But at the time, I felt like culling a lot of the weirdest stuff in my collection...an urge to become somewhat more "normal".  :P

steve ridgway

Quote from: T. D. on November 25, 2024, 05:45:13 PMThanks. I misspoke about "concrete". Triola overall is really quite good electronic music! Perhaps I shouldn't have sold the set. But at the time, I felt like culling a lot of the weirdest stuff in my collection...an urge to become somewhat more "normal".  :P

LOL I have gone off "concrete" since getting used to proper instruments, notes etc. but will introduce a small dose back into my listening at some point. I have a bit of Malec somewhere.

Mandryka

Quote from: T. D. on November 25, 2024, 05:45:13 PMThanks. I misspoke about "concrete". Triola overall is really quite good electronic music! Perhaps I shouldn't have sold the set. But at the time, I felt like culling a lot of the weirdest stuff in my collection...an urge to become somewhat more "normal".  :P

I guess the title is similar to Pierre Hernri's concrète Symphonie pour un homme seule.

I'm very keen on Luc Ferrari - is he concrète?
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steve ridgway

Quote from: Mandryka on November 25, 2024, 09:25:18 PMI'm very keen on Luc Ferrari - is he concrète?

I would say so, enjoy some of his early work before he went on to mere background noises.

Mandryka

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Quote from: steve ridgway on November 25, 2024, 09:41:18 PMI would say so, enjoy some of his early work before he went on to mere background noises.

I think it helps if you can understand the language. Some of it is quite erotic, yonic rather than phallic.
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steve ridgway

Quote from: Mandryka on November 26, 2024, 12:15:27 AMI think it helps if you can understand the language. Some of it is quite erotic, yonic rather than phallic.

Oh yes, that one ;) .

T. D.

This thread reminds me...during the height of COVID I made some extravagant (insane?) French electronic music purchases: a 12-CD Bernard Parmegiani box and 4 François Bayle CDs.
Playing discs 1-4 of the Parmegiani tonight. There's some pretty interesting material on them. [There is an ancient Parmegiani thread on the forum, but it's of negligible value, mainly lame puns on his surname.]

steve ridgway

Quote from: T. D. on November 26, 2024, 06:49:47 PMThis thread reminds me...during the height of COVID I made some extravagant (insane?) French electronic music purchases: a 12-CD Bernard Parmegiani box and 4 François Bayle CDs.
Playing discs 1-4 of the Parmegiani tonight. There's some pretty interesting material on them. [There is an ancient Parmegiani thread on the forum, but it's of negligible value, mainly lame puns on his surname.]

Parmegiani is first on my list for revisiting electroacoustic music. Violostries in particular is a fantastic piece.

AnotherSpin

Quote from: steve ridgway on November 26, 2024, 08:49:26 PMParmegiani is first on my list for revisiting electroacoustic music. Violostries in particular is a fantastic piece.

I found the second composition on the album after Violostries, JazzEx, quite interesting. It felt like Albert Ayler or the Art Ensemble of Chicago playing along with pre-recorded noise. I can't immediately recall such a combination of avant-garde jazz and musique concrète.


Maestro267

Parmegiani's music is used a lot on Jon Bois' sports documentaries.

Mandryka

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I like Parmegiani's De Natura Sonorum and to a lesser extent La Création du Monde. This is worth downloading if you can read it

https://www.scribd.com/document/209073064/L-Envers-D-Une-Oeuvre-Parmegiani
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T. D.

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Quote from: AnotherSpin on November 27, 2024, 03:46:25 AMI found the second composition on the album after Violostries, JazzEx, quite interesting. It felt like Albert Ayler or the Art Ensemble of Chicago playing along with pre-recorded noise. I can't immediately recall such a combination of avant-garde jazz and musique concrète.



Yes, JazzEx is one of Parmegiani's pieces that made the biggest impression on me. It was cited in the brief P. thread mentioned above.

T. D.

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Quote from: Mandryka on November 27, 2024, 05:14:01 AMI like Parmegiani's De Natura Sonorum and to a lesser extent La Création du Monde. This is worth downloading if you can read it

https://www.scribd.com/document/209073064/L-Envers-D-Une-Oeuvre-Parmegiani

Those are both included in the box I have. Also enjoy Enfer, which is half of a Divine Comédie collaboration with Bayle. Haven't heard the Bayle part (physical media scarce), but just noticed it's on bandcamp!

Very nice article. Thanks, though my rudimentary French is really not up to the task of reading it. The box set has a decent bilingual (Fr/Eng) booklet, but it's mostly photos and interviews.