The New Generation of Conductors Poll!

Started by madaboutmahler, March 13, 2012, 09:40:04 AM

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NO BANANA?!!!!!! :O

Edward Gardner
0 (0%)
Vasily Petrenko
7 (46.7%)
Vladimir Jurowski
1 (6.7%)
Andris Nelsons
6 (40%)
Yannick Nezet-Seguin
1 (6.7%)
Kirill Karabits
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 14

madaboutmahler

Many great young conductors at the moment - these are just the ones that have posts in England. :D

Take your pick!
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

madaboutmahler

Nelsons for me.

One of the most exciting conductors I have ever seen. His connection with the music and orchestra is superb. His technique may not be the best, but who cares ;) , his control and ability to encourage the orchestra is unbelievable. I look forward to seeing more from him.

Petrenko would be next, followed by Gardner.
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

It's a little hard to choose between Petrenko and Nelsons for me; I listened to some of their performances and they were always extremely good, gorgeous.
I think I will vote for Nelsons.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

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My choice should be obvious: Petrenko!!! The guy is unbelievably good. Of course, his Shostakovich recordings are what gets the nod from me here, but I really look forward to his other recordings. His recording on Avie of Rachmaninov's Isle of the Dead and Symphonic Dances was also fantastic. I do like Gardner a lot too. I don't like Vladimir Jurowski at all. His father, Michail, is clearly the superior conductor. I haven't heard any of Nelsons recordings yet. I'm not too impressed with Nezet-Seguin and I have only one recording with Karabits so not enough to make any kind of judgement on.

springrite

I have been "out of the loop" for more than a decade, so the only names up there that I know are Vasily Petrenko and Vladimir Jurowski. Of the two, I have only heard Jurowski. I've heard of Petrenko, thanks mostly to M.I.

So I'd better not vote.

I noticed Dudamel is not up there. Hehee...
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

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Quote from: springrite on March 13, 2012, 10:07:24 AMI've heard of Petrenko, thanks mostly to M.I.


Really, Paul? That's interesting. I didn't know I played a role in your discovery of Petrenko?

springrite

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 13, 2012, 10:11:31 AM
Really, Paul? That's interesting. I didn't know I played a role in your discovery of Petrenko?

His name (and CD cover) kept showing up in your listening post, purchasing post and shostakovich post.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 13, 2012, 10:05:18 AM
My choice should be obvious: Petrenko!!! The guy is unbelievably good. Of course, his Shostakovich recordings are what gets the nod from me here, but I really look forward to his other recordings. His recording on Avie of Rachmaninov's Isle of the Dead and Symphonic Dances was also fantastic. I do like Gardner a lot too. I don't like Vladimir Jurowski at all. His father, Michail, is clearly the superior conductor. I haven't heard any of Nelsons recordings yet. I'm not too impressed with Nezet-Seguin and I have only one recording with Karabits so not enough to make any kind of judgement on.

Petrenko certainly is brilliant. His Shostakovich, I agree, is superb.
I don't like Jurowski at all either. Just don't like his style.
You must listen to some of Nelsons' performances, John! They are superb! Go the Berliner Philharmoniker Digital Concert Hall, with that free voucher I keep on encouraging you to get (!!!) and watch him conduct Strauss with them... just amazing. I'll find some links to send you too.
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Karl Henning

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 13, 2012, 10:05:18 AM
My choice should be obvious: Petrenko!!! [...] I haven't heard any of Nelsons recordings yet.

Likewise, I am quite favorably impressed by Petrenko's recordings of Shostakovich; nor have I heard any of Nelsons's work.

So . . . I feel I cannot vote, since I know too little of the field here.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: Soapy Molloy on March 13, 2012, 10:52:52 AMHis Bruckner 9th + Te Deum last month was terrific - not uniquely so, but a whole grade more worth hearing than the run-of-the-mill performances you tend to hear nowadays, even from supposedly great Bruckner interpreters.

Nezet-Seguin's performance of Bruckner's 9th is nowhere near as good as Wand's various performances and Giulini's IMHO. I haven't heard a more convincing performance of the 9th in quite some time.

TheGSMoeller

Where's Blomstedt?  >:(


I can't vote, don't know enough about these conductors other than a few recordings from them.
I wanna see them in rehearsals, then I can make my choice.  ;D

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Quote from: Soapy Molloy on March 13, 2012, 11:14:46 AM
Unless you have heard Nézet-Séguin in concert, then you are in no position to make any judgement about his merits as a conductor.  Particularly if all you have heard of his Bruckner are the recordings on the ATMA label, which do not convey more than a fraction of the concert experience.

I never saw Bernstein or Karajan in concert and they're regarded by many to be two of the finest conductors that ever lived. I never saw Klemperer live either or Bohm or....you get my drift? People make judgements about conductors they never heard live on a daily basis. I don't need to hear a conductor live to make a fair judgement. I have heard plenty of Nezet-Seguin's performances (on record) to say that he's by far one of the worst victims of the media machine. You enjoy him, fine, but don't tell me I don't have a right to judge him when I, in fact, do have that right. Nezet-Seguin and Dudamel belong in the same category: two of the most clueless conductors that I EVER heard.

TheGSMoeller

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"Hey, viola in the second row, got something on your chin. No, this side." -Nezet-Sequin

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Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 13, 2012, 11:32:04 AM
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"Hey, viola in the second row, got something on your chin. No, this side." -Nezet-Sequin

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DavidW

Petrenko, thank you Brian wherever you are. :)

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Quote from: springrite on March 13, 2012, 10:12:36 AM
His name (and CD cover) kept showing up in your listening post, purchasing post and shostakovich post.

Oh, cool. Glad I could help you with my current obsessions. :D

nmlhats

Too bad you limited it to those with English posts. For my dollar and my ears, the best "new-generation" conductor around is Jaap van Zweden. He was just named Musical America's Conductor of the Year for 2012, and as you must know, it's not really just about America. I will go see anything this guy conducts, even if it's not my cup of tea, just to see what he brings out in the orchestra.

bhodges

Quote from: nmlhats on March 14, 2012, 07:43:30 AM
Too bad you limited it to those with English posts. For my dollar and my ears, the best "new-generation" conductor around is Jaap van Zweden. He was just named Musical America's Conductor of the Year for 2012, and as you must know, it's not really just about America. I will go see anything this guy conducts, even if it's not my cup of tea, just to see what he brings out in the orchestra.

Van Zweden is supposed to be terrific. Although I've not yet heard him, he's conducting the New York Philharmonic next month (Prokofiev Third PC with Yuja Wang and Mahler 1) - very much looking forward to that.

And welcome to the forum, nmlhats. Please feel free to post something about yourself in the "Introductions" section of the board.

--Bruce

Karl Henning

Van Zweden did a fine job here in Boston last month. Welcome, nmlhats!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot