Great artist AND great human being

Started by springrite, April 21, 2012, 08:06:37 AM

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springrite

It is actually rather rare, when a great artist is also a great human being loved by just about everyone both as a great artist AND a great human being.

I will start with one person: C. M. Giulini

Agree?

Whom would you nominate?
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Opus106

You probably may not have heard of her: M. S. Subbulakshmi (not the most informative entry in Wikipedia, unfortunately). Everyone I know who are ardent fans of Carnatic music, including my immediate family, have the utmost respect for as a highly spiritual artist with utmost humanity.
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madaboutmahler

"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg


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Ralph Vaughan Williams, Michael Tippett, Heitor Villa-Lobos, Alban Berg, Dmitri Shostakovich...

knight66

Quote from: madaboutmahler on April 21, 2012, 01:21:59 PM
Bernstein came into mind for me!

I think the great human being title was somewhat tidal there. He evinced many of the standard faults in spades.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Lethevich

From what I've read Antal Doráti. Additionally, Fritz Busch.
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knight66

I had forgotten about Dorati. Many years ago I read his autobiography. He seemed like he would indeed qualify.

He told one story that stuck with me. Pre-war in Budapest he was conducting quite a few opera performances. One house tenor was well known as a drunk. He excelled himself at a performance of Lohengrin when on his first entrance he bowed to the cast, clicked his heels and announced that his name was Lohengrin, thereby rendering the next three hours unnecessary.

I add: Sandor Veigh and Menuhin.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: madaboutmahler on April 21, 2012, 01:21:59 PM
Bernstein came into mind for me!

If you want to maintain that impression, don't read Joan Peyser's biography of Lenny  :D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Archaic Torso of Apollo

From what I've heard, Haydn and Dvorak fit the bill.
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Lisztianwagner

#11
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on April 21, 2012, 01:45:09 PM
Mariss Jansons for me.

Also Respighi, Boskovsky and Ashkenazy.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 22, 2012, 01:29:40 AM
If you want to maintain that impression, don't read Joan Peyser's biography of Lenny  :D

Sarge

haha :D


others....
I'd like to add many of my friends at the Academy! :)
and some more conductors:
Nelsons... Tilson Thomas... Abbado... Rattle

"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

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Josquin des Prez

Define what makes a human being "good".

The new erato

#15
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on April 22, 2012, 02:09:50 AM
Also Respighi, Boskovsky and Solti.
Solti?

I remember a reasonably well known and thrustworthy singer on record in a Norwegian newspaper telling how Solti had told her that if she didn't sleep with him, she would never work again.

Lethevich

Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

springrite

Eventually Percy Grainger, Walter Rummel, and a couple of my counseling clients will all be mentioned, I guess.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Antoine Marchand

Maybe this thread would even be more interesting, if every proposed name were accompanied by some anecdote or short comment about why it is thought that that person was a good person. As the comment of Erato, but the other way. :)