What you like and dislike about GMG

[North Star]

What I don't like?  Polls; along with the entire Diner section.

We don't need the likes of you here; get your dinner somewhere else! 

[DavidW]

Hell, that's the only place I post these days. 

Same here!

[BobsterLobster]

Likes: Discovering amazing recordings that I wouldn't have been aware of.

Dislikes: The feeling of being ignored. I was hoping I'd find a group of like-minded people here, but either I'm on a completely different page, or it's very cliquey here and takes months to become part of the group.
A big example, I was in an earthquake in Mexico City while at a concert listening to the funeral march from Chopin's 2nd piano sonata, it was terrifying... but this was completely ignored when I posted the anecdote here. That's a massive example. but pretty much all of my posts are ignored.
So now I just mostly lurk, which is a shame as I was really looking forward to sharing my recommendations and awesome good taste with the world (jk!)
I dont think it's just me, I think someone a few posts above mentioned that new members can tend to be ignored.
Anyway, that's my rant over... I wonder how many other new members have felt the same way, and not returned?

Also, for me the listening balance is a bit skewed towards obscure symphonic music, whereas my thing is more virtuosic instrumental music. It's not too big a problem though, as there are plenty of individual threads for that... but I definitely got the feeling that people weren't interested when I posted these kinds of CDs on the 'currently listening' thread.

[The new erato]

Also, for me the listening balance is a bit skewed towards obscure symphonic music, whereas my thing is more virtuosic instrumental music. It's not too big a problem though, as there are plenty of individual threads for that... but I definitely got the feeling that people weren't interested when I posted these kinds of CDs on the 'currently listening' thread.

I would be interested even if I don't always reply. Don't be a lobster, speak up!

[Opus106]

A big example, I was in an earthquake in Mexico City while at a concert listening to the funeral march from Chopin's 2nd piano sonata, it was terrifying... but this was completely ignored when I posted the anecdote here. That's a massive example. but pretty much all of my posts are ignored.

I would think that's an effect of this being the Internet and not a face-to-face conversation, which would have forced those who heard you recall the incident reply with something, lest they didn't mind making the situation awkward. On the web, you can just read and move away. Don't take this to mean that the members here are cold, emotionless beings (well, not all of them anyway ) or that it's the general way we treat new members in the forum (simply read your introduction thread); it's just that sometimes we don't know what to add to make the conversation more interesting, or maybe people were in a hurry while reading your post and it went under the radar later, especially since you posted it in WAYLT thread, unless I'm mistaken.

Come on and delurk.

[Cato]

Likes: Discovering amazing recordings that I wouldn't have been aware of.

Dislikes: The feeling of being ignored. I was hoping I'd find a group of like-minded people here, but either I'm on a completely different page, or it's very cliquey here and takes months to become part of the group.
A big example, I was in an earthquake in Mexico City while at a concert listening to the funeral march from Chopin's 2nd piano sonata, it was terrifying... but this was completely ignored when I posted the anecdote here. That's a massive example. but pretty much all of my posts are ignored.

So now I just mostly lurk, which is a shame as I was really looking forward to sharing my recommendations and awesome good taste with the world (jk!)I dont think it's just me, I think someone a few posts above mentioned that new members can tend to be ignored.
Anyway, that's my rant over... I wonder how many other new members have felt the same way, and not returned?

I do not recall your anecdote, but it sounds fascinating!

No, don't lurk, if you want people to know your ideas, then you need to write them!   0:)

I see you are in Mexico: one of my favorite composers is the - unfortunately  - little known Julian Carrillo, whose music was experimental and dealt with quarter-tone scales and other microtonal methods.

An example of his sixteenth-tone piano:   

[BobsterLobster]

I would think that's an effect of this being the Internet and not a face-to-face conversation, which would have forced those who heard you recall the incident reply with something, lest they didn't mind making the situation awkward. On the web, you can just read and move away. Don't take this to mean that the members here are cold, emotionless beings (well, not all of them anyway ) or that it's the general way we treat new members in the forum (simply read your introduction thread); it's just that sometimes we don't know what to add to make the conversation more interesting, or maybe people were in a hurry while reading your post and it went under the radar later, especially since you posted it in WAYLT thread, unless I'm mistaken.

Come on and delurk.

My impression of clique-iness has been formed from many posts, the example above is just one extreme one.
I agree that introduction threads on the whole are very warm and welcoming (particularly for Mahler lovers!), and beginners are definitely welcomed. Like I said, perhaps I'm just musically on a different page to everyone else.

[BobsterLobster]

I do not recall your anecdote, but it sounds fascinating!

No, don't lurk, if you want people to know your ideas, then you need to write them!   0:)

I see you are in Mexico: one of my favorite composers is the - unfortunately  - little known Julian Carrillo, whose music was experimental and dealt with quarter-tone scales and other microtonal methods.

An example of his sixteenth-tone piano:   

There's an interview with Carillo's grandson that I put on my website www.MexicanClassicalMusic.com, there's also an mp3 of his Symphony which is an absolute masterpiece, check it out!

[Cato]

There's an interview with Carillo's grandson that I put on my website www.MexicanClassicalMusic.com, there's also an mp3 of his Symphony which is an absolute masterpiece, check it out!

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot hear that yet here at school (very primitive conditions technologically), but will look forward to it this evening or tomorrow morning!

Where does the recording come from? 

I have an old scratchy record from the 60's with his Christopher Columbus Prelude and a CD from the Reinhardt group with the same work.

[Gurn Blanston]

Dislikes: The feeling of being ignored. I was hoping I'd find a group of like-minded people here, but either I'm on a completely different page, or it's very cliquey here and takes months to become part of the group.

That's what I was talking about earlier. Although, to be fair, some people who have been posting for 10+ years here get ignored sometimes too. Perhaps that's because people DO know them...

However, you can't let it drive you down. Post about what interests you. Reply to others and let people get to know you that way. After 10+ years, I freely admit that I don't read every post on every subject. But unless it is something in a thread that generates pages at a rate of 2-3 an hour (like the listening thread), I do try to acknowledge interesting items. If I had seen your Mexico City post I would have certainly replied to it since it would have caught my eye, just as it has done here.

Or, you could develop a passion for Haydn and your needs for communication partners would be easily remedied...

[DavidW]

My impression of clique-iness has been formed from many posts, the example above is just one extreme one.
I agree that introduction threads on the whole are very warm and welcoming (particularly for Mahler lovers!), and beginners are definitely welcomed. Like I said, perhaps I'm just musically on a different page to everyone else.

I looked over your posts and I see something common to all of them... they don't invite discussion.  If you want to have a conversation about something specific try asking a question.  You might be surprised.

For instance I don't spend that much time in the classical corner, and it does feel very cliqueish.  But when I ask a question they all jump into have a discussion with me.  The same goes for several other threads.  The posters here do form cliques out of necessity (few share their interests) but are always open (and desiring of) new blood.

[BobsterLobster]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot hear that yet here at school (very primitive conditions technologically), but will look forward to it this evening or tomorrow morning!

Where does the recording come from? 

I have an old scratchy record from the 60's with his Christopher Columbus Prelude and a CD from the Reinhardt group with the same work.

The recording comes from the discontinued Sony double CD set mentioned in the interview, the grandson lent his CDs to a friend but never got it back... I found it on the internet and have the permission of the Carillo family to put the mp3 of the symphony on my website.

[BobsterLobster]

I looked over your posts and I see something common to all of them... they don't invite discussion.  If you want to have a conversation about something specific try asking a question.  You might be surprised.

For instance I don't spend that much time in the classical corner, and it does feel very cliqueish.  But when I ask a question they all jump into have a discussion with me.  The same goes for several other threads.  The posters here do form cliques out of necessity (few share their interests) but are always open (and desiring of) new blood.

I agree, that's why I now tend not to post what I've been listening to, and keep to questions so I don't waste my time!

(Edit) Like I said though, it's a bit of a shame as I was hoping to share my tastes and discoveries here, but I haven't found it worthwhile.

[DieNacht]

Will definitely be giving the symphony a listen - sounds very interesting. Am going to Mallorca tomorrow though, have been invited for a week. Might be listening to it there, adding perhaps an exotic flavour to the beach view 

[BobsterLobster]

Will definitely be giving the symphony a listen - sounds very interesting. Am going to Mallorca tomorrow though, have been invited for a week. Might be listening to it there, adding perhaps an exotic flavour to the beach view 

and some Chopin in Valldemossa? Have the raindrop prelude handy in case it rains!

[DieNacht]

Will definitely be going to Valldemossa, it should be one of the prettiest villages & includes a Chopin/Sand museum. it´s a first-time visit.

[chasmaniac]

When my posts meet silence I imagine people laughing too hard to type.

[DavidW]

I agree, that's why I now tend not to post what I've been listening to, and keep to questions so I don't waste my time!

(Edit) Like I said though, it's a bit of a shame as I was hoping to share my tastes and discoveries here, but I haven't found it worthwhile.

I do that too, I think we're on the same page.

You might want to switch your perspective to the composer.  A specific recording of let's say solo piano music of Holst might offer little interest to other posters.  But sharing favorite Holst works as a whole on the Holst thread might find you sharing common interests with posters that you didn't find on the listening thread.  I'm not saying that you necessarily like Holst, I just mean that I find the composer threads more rewarding than the listening thread, which reads like a big twitter feed.

[Cato]

The recording comes from the discontinued Sony double CD set mentioned in the interview, the grandson lent his CDs to a friend but never got it back... I found it on the internet and have the permission of the Carillo family to put the mp3 of the symphony on my website.

I visited both websites (Mexican Classical and Enjoy New Music) and found nothing about the mp3 of the Carrillo symphony.   

What am I not seeing?  I went to "About" and also did a search, but found nothing.

[Sammy]

Dislikes: The feeling of being ignored. I was hoping I'd find a group of like-minded people here, but either I'm on a completely different page, or it's very cliquey here and takes months to become part of the group.

Just out of curiosity, I noticed that you submit less than 1 posting per day.  On boards of this type, I find that those who get the most responses per posting are the folks who post with the greatest frequency.

As for the clique matter, I assume there's at least one major clique on the board.  Being a solo type person, I'm not attracted to or part of any board group; a team player I am not. 

My advice is to just be yourself and try to post more frequently.  Your postings on this thread have resulted in quite a few responses.  Keep at it and all should be fine.  Your declared position of posting less and less will only have the opposite effect of what you want from the board.

Of course, none of the above applies to the nut-jobs that come our way from time to time.  One post from a nut elicits many responses of a condescending nature.