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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #120 on: March 21, 2008, 01:02:00 AM »
If only someone called Harry would trade budgets with you....

No need. For now, I am happy buying Tangerine Dream, Autechre, Colin MacIntyre, Lowgold etc.  ;)
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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #121 on: March 23, 2008, 10:59:22 PM »

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Newly acquired. One of the last of Gluck's "early" operatic work. (He was already 40, but had still over 30 years and many grand operas ahead of him :)). A small scale court opera - also called "serenata" or "festa teatrale" - in two acts. How to characterise it? Charming, with interesting and characterful music that easily keeps attention during the near 1,5 hours of duration. The performance is a delight - absolutely everything is right. Starring Maria Bayo who, as always, firmly projects the charcater of the role she sings. I am impressed by Argentinian soprano Veronica Cangemi, the other singers are very fine as well. Very idiomatic accompaniment by the Cappella Coloniensis under Christopher Mould - in the vein of Tafelmusik under Weil or Freiburger Barokorchester under Von der Goltz.

Of course, this is not a major work in the genre but still a very nice piece - much strengthened by a top notch performance. I think lovers of the baroque opera, or serenatas/oratorios alike, will find this (at bargain price) quite enjoyable.

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #122 on: March 24, 2008, 01:47:43 AM »
No need. For now, I am happy buying Tangerine Dream, Autechre, Colin MacIntyre, Lowgold etc.  ;)

Why with his budget you could buy your own Tangerine Dream garden.  ;D
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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #123 on: April 17, 2008, 09:57:04 AM »
Just bought this stunning record:



Some of the best German concertoes this side of Bach, superb playing and great sonics. Written for Hannover by a (assumedly) Bruxellois.

Zig-Zag is fast becoming one of my favorite labels, and certainly THE favorite for unfamiliar baroque music.

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #124 on: April 17, 2008, 09:27:46 PM »
Just bought this stunning record:



Some of the best German concertoes this side of Bach, superb playing and great sonics. Written for Hannover by a (assumedly) Bruxellois.

Thanks for posting and bumping the thread again. :)
Looks very interesting, I see that it's with David Plantier - a great performer.
I was very curious how it sounded like - link to sample HERE.

It sounds indeed like a mixture of French, German and Italian Baroque styles, and it has a slight Händelean flavour as well, don't you think?

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #125 on: April 18, 2008, 07:11:20 AM »
It sounds indeed like a mixture of French, German and Italian Baroque styles, and it has a slight Händelean flavour as well, don't you think?

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Too many winds for Handel, I'd rather think a slightly less quirky Zelenka.

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #126 on: April 30, 2008, 09:32:02 AM »
Could I have some of your Heinrich Schütz favourites - works & recordings - please? :)

A composer who inexplicably escaped my attention till now!  :o


Any comments on these?

Recordings by Wilhelm Ehmann on the (tiny) German label Cantate - word has it that these are good...


                                                                (plus vols. 2-4)

And what about the Weser-Renaissance under Cordes?




These seem also serious contenders:




Just some random observations - please enlighten me! :)

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #127 on: April 30, 2008, 08:59:47 PM »


These seem also serious contenders:


I don't understand what you meant by the word "contenders" -- the recordings you quoted
are of different works by the great Schutz....

IMO the most recorded work by him must be the Musikalisches Exequien.  Do you have a
good recording of it already?  My favourite remains that sung by the Dresdener Kreuzchor
conducted by Rudolf Mauersberger (Berlin Classics).  Peter Schreier was a superb Evangelist
and tenor soloist.  An early effort at HIP by DDR forces but like David Hill's rendition of the
Victoria Requiem, it offers a totally convincing account of the work at hand, so much so
it would lead one to believe that their interpretation totally embodies the music's 'spirit.'
In the case of Mauersburger Schutz, it sends shivers down my spine just to recall Schreier's
eloquent delivery of some of the composer's most fervently austere music....

I also tried Junghanel's Symphoniae sacre and Psalmen Davids and found both a bit cold (my
response!).  Hilliard Ensemble's recording of the Opus ultimum (Virgin), on the other hand,
turned out to be much superior than I expected. 
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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #128 on: April 30, 2008, 09:35:31 PM »
I don't understand what you meant by the word "contenders" -- the recordings you quoted
are of different works by the great Schutz....
"Candidates" then, FL, candidates - and referring to the recordings of course, not to the works. 8)

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IMO the most recorded work by him must be the Musikalisches Exequien.  Do you have a
good recording of it already? 

My favourite remains that sung by the Dresdener Kreuzchor
conducted by Rudolf Mauersberger (Berlin Classics).  Peter Schreier was a superb Evangelist
and tenor soloist.  An early effort at HIP by DDR forces but like David Hill's rendition of the
Victoria Requiem, it offers a totally convincing account of the work at hand, so much so
it would lead one to believe that their interpretation totally embodies the music's 'spirit.'
In the case of Mauersburger Schutz, it sends shivers down my spine just to recall Schreier's
eloquent delivery of some of the composer's most fervently austere music....

No I'm a total Schütz virgin!  ;D I remember Val mentioning the Mauersberger as well, but I assumed those recordings to be a bit outdated. But on account of your comments I'll investigate - though a rather complicating factor will be that I do not like Peter Schreier. ::)


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I also tried Junghanel's Symphoniae sacre and Psalmen Davids and found both a bit cold (my
response!).  Hilliard Ensemble's recording of the Opus ultimum (Virgin), on the other hand,
turned out to be much superior than I expected. 

Junghänel a bit cold, not entirely surprising.
Thanks for all your comments. :)

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #129 on: April 30, 2008, 09:52:05 PM »

though a rather complicating factor will be that I do not like Peter Schreier. ::)


Schreier's nasal tone is rather under control in this recording if that is what you found
objectionable in his usual way of singing.

Yes I think Junghanel's take on Schutz is too reserved, even though Schutz is in general
a VERY introvert composer whose style became more and more austere until he was
writing a cappella works at the end of his career... :o




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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #130 on: May 01, 2008, 02:22:34 AM »
This is my favorite recording of anything by Schutz:


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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #131 on: May 01, 2008, 02:47:51 AM »
Could I have some of your Heinrich Schütz favourites - works & recordings - please? :)

A composer who inexplicably escaped my attention till now!  :o


Any comments on these?


And what about the Weser-Renaissance under Cordes?






Just some random observations - please enlighten me! :)

Q


Well Que, I can vouch for the CPO recordings, and the one from Accent. I have them, and think WR a fine group of singers.
I have certainly a lot of vocal music from Schutz, to much to post here all, but I would also stress the Brilliant releases as being on top of my list.
I hope you find enough pleaure in them. :)

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #132 on: May 01, 2008, 10:39:36 AM »
This is my favorite recording of anything by Schutz:



Ah, can't miss - almost anything by Bernius is bound to be exceptional!
But of course, it being on Sony Vivarte it will be 100% OOP and difficult to find.. :-\ But I've got around that before - so off goes the hunt, and thanks for the rec. :)

Well Que, I can vouch for the CPO recordings, and the one from Accent. I have them, and think WR a fine group of singers.
I have certainly a lot of vocal music from Schutz, to much to post here all, but I would also stress the Brilliant releases as being on top of my list.
I hope you find enough pleasure in them. :)

Thanks, Harry. :)

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #133 on: May 01, 2008, 10:48:41 PM »
This is my favorite recording of anything by Schutz:


Ah, can't miss - almost anything by Bernius is bound to be exceptional!
But of course, it being on Sony Vivarte it will be 100% OOP and difficult to find.. :-\ But I've got around that before - so off goes the hunt, and thanks for the rec. :)

And guess what!  :o
The German branch of Sony/BMG have reissued it in their budget "Esprit" series! :)



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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #134 on: May 01, 2008, 11:16:10 PM »
What wonderful news (ugly cover though).

Do you know if the rest of the Vivarte series will surface here, and if the reissus will be available outside Germany?

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #135 on: May 02, 2008, 12:16:49 AM »
What wonderful news (ugly cover though).

Do you know if the rest of the Vivarte series will surface here, and if the reissus will be available outside Germany?

Covers of the series are gastly...
Went through the whole series, and I guess this (very recent) issue is the only - and hopefully first - from the Vivarte series. Never saw these issues other than on jpc or in Germany.

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2008, 01:13:15 AM »
Covers of the series are gastly...
Went through the whole series, and I guess this (very recent) issue is the only - and hopefully first - from the Vivarte series. Never saw these issues other than on jpc or in Germany.

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When they have reissued the complete Vivarte series, I have a giant order for jpc.de awaiting. I'd better have my sunglasses ready when I open the package though.

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #137 on: May 02, 2008, 01:25:12 AM »
Covers of the series are gastly...
Went through the whole series, and I guess this (very recent) issue is the only - and hopefully first - from the Vivarte series. Never saw these issues other than on jpc or in Germany.

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Of course one never gets the full text notes (often written by known musicologists in addition to performers themselves) with reissues.  If one can find the original versions at ebay, amazon shops, garage sales, used
CD stores or wherever  ;),  I'd think it advisable to get them there.
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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #138 on: May 02, 2008, 10:47:10 AM »
Now a word is needed on his instrumental music .. which I failed to find on record on the internet.  :)

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Re: German Baroque Music
« Reply #139 on: May 02, 2008, 12:07:57 PM »
Now a word is needed on his instrumental music .. which I failed to find on record on the internet.  :)
Schutz? In that case you'll have a long wait ahead of you.