Never Recorded, O-O-P, or A Better Recording Needed: Your Wish List!

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The new erato

Quote from: Jo498 on March 11, 2016, 09:19:51 AM

I have had the Gardiner recording on my list for a long time, just never got around ordering it.
It's really fine.

amw

Quote from: Jo498 on March 11, 2016, 08:28:26 AMTurner/harmonia mundi
Does anyone know what happened to this group as a recording/performing unit? They turned out two of the best Beethoven recordings I know of and then just disappeared forever? Alessandro Moccia is still around but has no website so I don't know if he's still leading the group or let it dissolve; Adrian Chamorro has apparently decided to become a conductor (his bio doesn't say whether or not he left the quartet), Ageet Zweistra left in 2005 to join a new quartet, and I don't know what happened to Jean-Philippe Vasseur.

Turner

Quote from: Spineur on March 11, 2016, 06:39:34 AM
I have recently bought some of Martinu chamber music (Cello sonatas Nonet), which I do not find as interesting as his lyrical works.
My impression is also that his later works (Nonet and Greek Passion) are better finished and more profound than his

The lesser known recording of the three cello sonatas by Dieltiens and Groslot on the Accent label adds a lot of richness and intensity to the works, compared to others.

Jo498

I believe that like the Smithsonian quartet/ensemble, the Archibudelli and others, the "Turner Quartet" never was a full-time permanent quartet. At some stage the players were basically the first chairs of one or three of the franco-flemish baroque orchestras. (Ageet Zweistra is mentioned as continuo cellist on many Herreweghe discs from the 1980s and 90s.) No clue why they stopped playing/recording in that configuration. (Their second disc with op.59/3 and 74 was more controversially reviewed and I never bothered with it because I am not overly fond of these works although op.74 has grown on me in recent years.)

Similarly, the "Apponyi Quartet" who recorded a Boccherini disc and Haydn's op.33 was just the first chairs of the Freiburger Barockorchester and apparently stopped making recordings as a quartet soon afterwards although all of them are still members or that orchestra.
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IPPOLITOV-IVANOV - the operas The Marriage and Ole from the Northland, an oratorio Ruth
and the Pythagorean Hymn to the Rising Sun op. 39 for mixed chorus, ten flutes, two harps and tuba
would attract my immediate attention
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Quote from: Lilas Pastia on October 20, 2012, 05:50:50 PM
Most of the Collegium Aureum's recordings for DHM are either OOP or hard to find. Particularly lamentable is the absence from the catalogue of the QCA's unrivalled accounts of Beethoven's op. 132 and Schubert's Death and the Maiden quartets. After almost 40 years I still count these as the best interpretations and sonic recreations of these masterpieces. These are among the most oft-recorded quartets, and yet, no version I know of reaches the level of musical understanding and sonic truth of these recordings. Although I haven't heard them in many a moon, my memory can vouch for the sonic beauty of these recordings.

I picked up the LvB 132 last year, and mentioned it on the "Vinyl Explorations" thread. It's really a nice performance, somewhat subdued but mellow and dignified, with a lot of detail in the playing. I haven't heard many versions of this quartet, so I don't know how well it stands up against all the competition, but this strikes me as a good one.
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Jo498

There were many Collegium Aureum recordings, both chamber and orchestral music, a lot of which has never been on CD. Although the ones I have heard can be somewhat "hit and miss" and they are sometimes in a style somewhat different than more recent "historical" performances, many were really pioneering (theirs were certainly among the first HIP recordings of Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven) and others are still worthwhile.

A lot of their Mozart recordings appeared in a cheap re-issue series around the 1991 anniversary and can often be found used cheaply. But more recent re-issues unfortunately focus on the standard rep stuff (staples by Bach, Handel etc) that has probably become obsolete by newer recordings.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Jo498 on March 11, 2016, 11:37:45 PM
Similarly, the "Apponyi Quartet" who recorded a Boccherini disc and Haydn's op.33 was just the first chairs of the Freiburger Barockorchester and apparently stopped making recordings as a quartet soon afterwards although all of them are still members or that orchestra.

Thanks for pointing this out; how did I miss it up till now? It's on the way, though, so the only missing PI Haydn quartets disk I know of is finally on its way home.  ;-)

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Some film scores that would be nice to see found or done....here is my source:
http://rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/lost.html

Herrmman's Psycho, Citizen Kane, and Jason and the Arogonauts.

John Williams' Dracula.-It goes for $44 on cd, but I can live with owning the lp.


Vertigo (Bernard Herrmann)
Because the original elements didn't survive the last restoration.
Story goes that the tapes were really fragile and, even after baking, were disintegrating as they were going through the digitisation machine.
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More here on the Vertigo score:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_(film_score)
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The new erato

Here's wishing for a complete Palestrina mass collection (there are over 100 of them) done by a small, gritty male ensemble.

North Star

Quote from: The new erato on March 22, 2016, 06:44:00 AM
Here's wishing for a complete Palestrina mass collection (there are over 100 of them) done by a small, gritty male ensemble.
Hah! Well that will never happen, but a dozen masses shouldn't be too much to ask..
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Quote from: The new erato on March 22, 2016, 06:44:00 AM
Here's wishing for a complete Palestrina mass collection (there are over 100 of them) done by a small, gritty male ensemble.

My first thought was for De Labyrintho here, but then I wondered if they would be gritty enough (as per your suggestion)?  They are not exclusively an all-male group in any event.

How about either Cantica Symphonia, or Odhecaton?
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Never waste a good reason for a purchase....  ;)


Cato

Quote from: The new erato on March 22, 2016, 06:44:00 AM
Here's wishing for a complete Palestrina mass collection (there are over 100 of them) done by a small, gritty male ensemble.

All of Haydn's 100+ symphonies have been recorded, so why not all of Palestrina's Masses?

With the Internet's voracious appetite for new things, it is possible that all music ever composed will eventually be available in some format! Who knows?   8)
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HIPster

Quote from: The new erato on March 22, 2016, 03:25:21 PM
Or Cinquecento?

Bingo! ;) (That's me agreeing with you, not the name of an obscure group on the Amon Ra label.) 

Yes, good call with Cinquecento!
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PerfectWagnerite

I would like this at a reasonable price:



Seems like this has been OOP for 20 yrs.

Also an uncut version of Gliere's 3rd Symphony performed by a top orchestra would be nice.

Cato

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on March 22, 2016, 04:36:47 PM
I would like this at a reasonable price:



Seems like this has been OOP for 20 yrs.

Also an uncut version of Gliere's 3rd Symphony performed by a top orchestra would be nice.

Reviews say this is uncut: is the BBC Philharmonic not the standard you would like?

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PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Cato on March 22, 2016, 05:03:27 PM
Reviews say this is uncut: is the BBC Philharmonic not the standard you would like?



I have that one, along with Bostein/LSO as far as "major" orchestra is concerned. They are both good but neither is really that distinctive. I am hoping one of the big German/Austrian bands or the Concertgebouw will take it up to give the voluptuousness and grandeur of this music true justice. The best recording right now might be Falleta/Buffalo but the playing is still a bit rough in spots and the strings don't really sound all that great plus the recorded sound is dry.

mc ukrneal

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on March 22, 2016, 04:36:47 PM
I would like this at a reasonable price:



Seems like this has been OOP for 20 yrs.

Also an uncut version of Gliere's 3rd Symphony performed by a top orchestra would be nice.
I see a used copy on cd for 14.99 pounds on Amazon UK (the Dvorak/Conlon). Not a great price, but not the $50 being asked for on US Amazon. Roughly $25 with shipping using today's exchange rates (it says international shipping).
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Pat B

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on March 22, 2016, 04:36:47 PM
I would like this at a reasonable price:



Seems like this has been OOP for 20 yrs.

Obviously there is a wide array of choices for the New World Symphony. Why are you interested in this one? Just curious.