Where to go next?

[coffee]

The time may be coming soon for me to explore some composers new to me. The following are some that have been on my mind for awhile (according to my amazon wishlists). Which of them would you recommend most highly to me? Feel free to recommend particular works or recordings as well, as you like.

- Aho
- Antheil
- Arnold
- Berwald
- Catan
- Cui
- Ferneyhough
- Field
- Gombert
- Grainger
- Krenek
- Kurtag
- Lachenmann
- Lortzing
- Miaskovsky (Myaskovsky)
- Minkus
- Moeran
- Mompou
- Murail
- Norgard
- Nyman
- Raff
- Rihm
- Roslavets
- Rypdal
- Salonen
- Schmelzer
- Sullivan
- Vierne

[mc ukrneal]

The time may be coming soon for me to explore some composers new to me. The following are some that have been on my mind for awhile (according to my amazon wishlists). Which of them would you recommend most highly to me? Feel free to recommend particular works or recordings as well, as you like.

- Aho
- Antheil
- Arnold
- Berwald
- Catan
- Cui
- Ferneyhough
- Field
- Gombert
- Grainger
- Krenek
- Kurtag
- Lachenmann
- Lortzing
- Miaskovsky (Myaskovsky)
- Minkus
- Moeran
- Mompou
- Murail
- Norgard
- Nyman
- Raff
- Rihm
- Roslavets
- Rypdal
- Salonen nger
- Schmelzer
- Sullivan
- Vierne

Depends on what you would like:
If you like Chopin - Field is a nice next stop
If you like Brahms - Raff
Want something more modern/Russia - Myaskovsky
Want something folksie - Grainger
Want romantic ballet - Minkus

[North Star]

Aho certainly if you like Shostakovich. Miaskovsky is great too, not as modern as either of them.

[Sammy]

The time may be coming soon for me to explore some composers new to me. The following are some that have been on my mind for awhile (according to my amazon wishlists). Which of them would you recommend most highly to me? Feel free to recommend particular works or recordings as well, as you like.

- Aho
- Antheil
- Arnold
- Berwald
- Catan
- Cui
- Ferneyhough
- Field
- Gombert
- Grainger
- Krenek
- Kurtag
- Lachenmann
- Lortzing
- Miaskovsky (Myaskovsky)
- Minkus
- Moeran
- Mompou
- Murail
- Norgard
- Nyman
- Raff
- Rihm
- Roslavets
- Rypdal
- Salonen
- Schmelzer
- Sullivan
- Vierne

Myaskovsky is the composer from your list that I most appreciate.  My favorite disc programs his violin concerto along with the violin concerto of Weinberg (on Naxos).

[snyprrr]

Norgard Symphony 3, 4/5

[eyeresist]

I would like you to investigate Norgard, then tell me if he's any good.

[bhodges]

Coffee, all of the people on your list are worth exploring, but you might consider spending some time with Lachenmann, only because much of his output will challenge--and possibly change--how you perceive and hear music. My first encounter with him was Gran Torso--a string quartet filled with scratching sounds that was unlike anything I'd ever heard. (Here is a New York Times review of that very concert.)

And handily, Tom Service has a nice piece on him from just two days ago here. You can find this and more Lachenmann on YouTube.

A friend of mine called him "the Beethoven of the late 20th century" and while that might be a bit over-the-top, I can see what he's getting at.

--Bruce

[ibanezmonster]

Lachenmann, Murail, and Norgard. 

[DaveF]

I'd certainly recommend Berwald - a great influence on most 20th-century Nordic composers (Nielsen especially) and very charming and original.  Any of the symphonies, especially 3 & 4, and the overture to The Queen of Golconda.

Gombert is an interesting choice - much darker and more inward-looking than people like Palestrina and Victoria.  Famous as the composer of some of the most learned and complex polyphony of the whole Renaissance.  His Magnificat settings are pretty good.

Moeran is (to my ears) a bit like Sibelius meets Vaughan Williams - try the Symphony in G minor or the violin concerto.

DF

[coffee]

Every one of you guys, thank you very much!

And, friends, don't stop now!

[Mirror Image]

- Aho - a very good composer that I'm still becoming more familiar with, influenced by Shostakovich, Mahler, and his teacher Rautavaara
- Antheil - I have to admit that Paul (sringrite) was right about Antheil --- he doesn't really do much for me, a musical dead-end in other words
- Arnold - another very good composer --- wrote nine symphonies and a ton of other music, well worth exploring --- start with the symphonies
- Berwald - don't know much about Berwald but have enjoyed one or two of his symphonies
- Catan - a Mexican composer that I need to get more familiar with, I read he's a good opera composer
- Cui - the only thing I know about this composer was his association with the Mighty Handful
- Ferneyhough - n/a
- Field - n/a
- Gombert - n/a
- Grainger - never cared much about this composer or particularly even liked his style --- his personal life, however, is downright bizarre
- Krenek - a composer I really want to explore
- Kurtag - still in the process of discovering this composer, Stele is a very cool work
- Lachenmann - don't care about this composer
- Lortzing - never heard of him
- Miaskovsky (Myaskovsky) - one of my favorite Russian composers, his 27 symphonies are essential listening for the Russian fan
- Minkus - I believe I heard a ballet of his, but didn't think much of it
- Moeran - wrote some pretty good music in a Bax/RVW mold
- Mompou - wrote some beautiful solo piano music
- Murail - know enough about this composer to stay very far away from him
- Norgard - his Symphony No. 3 is the only work I cared for but he's achieved international acclaim now I believe
- Nyman - boring composer along with Glass and Reich who hasn't written a good work since Music for 18 Musicians
- Raff - a Mendelssohn-inspired composer, music is pleasant enough, but not my cup of tea
- Rihm - a little over-the-top for me in terms of stylistic development and presentation of the music
- Roslavets - don't know this composer's music but everything I've read about him describes him as a "Russian Schoenberg" or whatever that means
- Rypdal - does he even qualify as a legitimate classical composer? I always associated him with jazz fusion
- Salonen - a surprisingly good composer --- checkout the recording titled Wing On Wing
- Schmelzer- never heard of him
- Sullivan - have consistently avoided him and don't have any intentions of listening to any of his music
- Vierne - haven't heard a note from this composer

[coffee]

Thank you MI and again, everyone else. It will take me some time of course, but I will check out all your recommendations.

[cjvinthechair]

If you (& Mr. Mirror Image) fancy a piece of Krenek to try - how about Lamentatio Jeremiae Prophetae. Just possibly a little long and, dare I say it, repetitive, but truly beautiful too !

[Jean Rivier]

I recommend any of the symphonies of Raff, especially 6 and 10.
Of Louis Vierne always recommend his works for organ, but I want to emphasize his symphony in A minor which I think is a masterpiece of the last romanticism.

[pjme]

and don't forget the lovely Poéme for piano and orchestra on the same Timpani disc. Quite impressionistic and brillant. The opening is magical.

Louis Vierne: Symphonie en la mineur, Poème pour piano et orchestre – François Kerdoncuff, piano; Orchestre Philharmonique de Liège; Pierre Bartholomée, conductor; Timpani (2007)

P.

[RebLem]

Antheil, Field, Lortzing, and Sullivan.  Might want to try George Crumb, too.

[Radioman]

Hello RebLem,  I recall you from the golden days of MSN forums 

If I may contribute to the discussion, I have listed below some items of music I played on my radio programme in the last two weeks which I hope will be of interest.


   De Lalande: Suite de Sinfonies  D3.0537
        Turnabout TV 34232   

   Johann Freidrich Fasch: Passio Jesu Christi CDF2798
   Naxos 8570326     

   Franz & Karl Doppler: Valse di Bravura  CDD5680
   Naxos 8570378 
   
   Márquez: Danzón #2 CDM3569
   Dorian 90254     

   von Weber: Piano Concerto #1 1st mvmnt CDR-233:    
   Turnabout 334 746 

          Offenbach: American Eagle Waltz  CDO3162
   MMG  MCD 10022 

   Respighi: Belkis Queen Of Sheba R4.0490 
       Chandos ABRD 1142   

      Handel: Queen Of Sheba CDG9470
          EMI5 68384 (track 1)
                  
   Hertel: Oboe/Harp/Cello Trio
   Danacord 350 (tracks 4 & 6)

[xochitl]

Arnold:  Symphony #7

'nuff said

[Alie]

I think that that as a beginner you should start from some popular classical music. For example few days I've found a great CD called "Pavane", not at amazone, but at eclassical.com site. This is the record of the compositions of Claude Debussy, Richard Dubugnon, Gabriel Faure and Maurice Ravel, performed by violist Maxim Rysanov and pianist Ashley Wass. Very beautiful music as for me and not difficult for understanding...

[Mirror Image]

I think that that as a beginner you should start from some popular classical music. For example few days I've found a great CD called "Pavane", not at amazone, but at eclassical.com site. This is the record of the compositions of Claude Debussy, Richard Dubugnon, Gabriel Faure and Maurice Ravel, performed by violist Maxim Rysanov and pianist Ashley Wass. Very beautiful music as for me and not difficult for understanding...

Not sound like a jerk, but did you read the OP's original post at the very top of the page? He clearly is not a beginner. This said, I believe people shouldn't start with the most popular music. They should start with whatever catches their ear first. For me, it was hearing someone talk about Bartok and Ives. From there, it has been an incredible journey.