Started by George, April 06, 2007, 06:00:36 AM
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Quote from: Mandryka on November 20, 2022, 07:59:34 AMThe sound on those DG nocturnes which Ciani released is so disappointing that I too have found it hard to appreciate them.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 21, 2022, 12:25:09 AMI really enjoyed the live nocturne recording that I just listened to by him (via youtube). Not a name that I had heard of before now, but not surprised that I enjoyed it as I see that one of his instructors was Cortot (whose Chopin recordings I adore). Thanks for bringing up his name! PD
Quote from: Mandryka on November 21, 2022, 03:58:58 AMI'm glad you enjoyed it -- but be aware that it is not the same as the one on the CD which George and I were discussing, which was this. I love the performances, but somehow the sound is a bit off-putting for me -- though not everyone has a problem with it though. https://open.spotify.com/album/1Uv3dOuTkBYjUFbBfTvGXM(I'm listening now to the op 62/1 on that big set of complete nocturnes by Ciani. I think it's wonderful. The time has come to revisit some Ciani recordings!)
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 21, 2022, 04:13:00 AMYes, I saw that you had mentioned not liking the sound of the DG recordings. Alas, I'm not on Spotify so I can't listen to it.PD
Quote from: Mandryka on November 21, 2022, 06:13:42 AMWell PD, I think you should remedy that PD . . . Q.But in the meantime, they're here on the tubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brQ6kyJHsM0&ab_channel=Narinternational
Quote from: Mandryka on November 21, 2022, 08:16:20 AMYou're right to question. This is the one I have and think is very good https://www.discogs.com/release/11430078-Dino-Ciani-Plays-Chopin-Nocturnes-Waltzes-Barcarolle-Mazurkas-Polonaise-Fantaisieand I thought it was it's the same nocturnes as the one on that youtube, which is herehttps://www.discogs.com/release/19989166-Dino-Ciani-Chopin-Nocturnesbut I was wrong. I have never heard it in fact. The op 62/1 you heard before is in this -- which I've had for years and years, but don't well enough to comment, apart from the op 62 nocturne. https://www.discogs.com/release/15612682-Dino-Ciani-A-Tribute
Quote from: staxomega on November 02, 2022, 04:26:41 AMThat wasn't me that said they were played without feeling, to me it sounds like he is really in love with the music and all the Chopin he plays. I think this is the only way he knew how to play Chopin seeing who he was taught by in Poland. The mazurka-like comment from me is because of the amount of rubato he uses instead of following the longer harmonic lines (Amoyel, Wasowski) combined with the brisker tempi. I'd take Ts'ong in Chopin any day over some bland "note perfect" pianists. That style of playing Chopin was starting to fall out of favor as early as the 1940s, for instance you can hear Cortot's late performances are not the same as his earlier ones due to the brow beating from myopic critics as pianists started to change their style of interpretation. It's amazing that Ts'ong lived as long as he did carrying on that old tradition. I preordered both the Sony and Eloquence boxes the moment I saw them and like I was telling Pohjolas Daughter I've got 100+ hours of listening enjoyment from them (my preference for his Chopin performances is Westminster where Chopin is duplicated, but the Sony recordings were my introduction to him and I was immediately in love). I've seen several of his LPs sell for considerably more than the prices of both those boxes combined and I wasn't going to miss out on them. On a brighter note I think we're starting to get back to where more creativity is encouraged, like Beatrice Rana's Chopin Scherzi are the best I've heard in 30 years.
Quote from: Mandryka on November 20, 2022, 07:33:26 AMI think this is a really valid point.
Quote from: MickeyBoy on November 21, 2022, 02:35:22 PMJust a minute, s.v.p. The vicissitudes of recording 78s influenced the playing of Cortot? I am not old enough to have heard Cortot in recital, but I would be surprised - very surprised - if there he weren't more spontaneous and conveyed that je-ne-said-quoi of musicality that exuded through his fingers.
Quote from: Mandryka on November 21, 2022, 07:03:53 PMThere's also the mystery of who is playing the keyboard in his 1930s recording of Brandenburg 5.
Quote from: Mandryka on November 21, 2022, 11:21:34 PMI have seen it disputed - I saw someone argue that it is Wanda Landowska playing.
Quote from: Holden on November 21, 2022, 11:06:46 PMI've got the tribute box set and while some of the sound on it is good there is some poor SQ recordings. He certainly is a pianist worth listening to.
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