Chopin Recordings

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Elgarian

Quote from: Holden on April 01, 2013, 05:12:13 PM
Ashkenazy's Nocturnes are excellent so don't be surprised at all. I am not familar with Leonskaja's recording. I've heard the Pires and found that she tampered with the tempo/rubato to much for my liking. I struggled to find a real flow from her in most of these works.

This is a case in point. I've had the Pires set of Nocturnes longer than any of the others - it was the first Chopin I bought, under this new dispensation of piano-tolerant ears, so she easily established herself as 'the way to go'; and when I heard the others I thought at first that by comparison they seemed a little pedestrian. But when I did this careful listening to three different performances of the same Nocturne, I could see that what I'd initially thought of as 'pedestrianism' was actually a more careful articulation, and my silky-smooth Piresian expectations were getting in the way of appreciating that.

I hope what I'll get at the end of this process is an enhanced appreciation of a variety of approaches, rather than just one or two favourites establishing themselves. I've bought the Rubenstein 10CD box (Sony) in the hope of extending the range further, and a few individual sets of Waltzes (Igoshina, Fliter and Ott), Etudes (Zayas and Perahia), Ballades (Perahia) and Preludes (Perez). Should keep me off the streets for a few years!

Karl Henning

Quote from: Elgarian on April 01, 2013, 01:18:19 PM
I mentioned somewhere else (I forget where) that for the first time in my life I find myself able to enjoy Chopin. The reason for this baffles me - I imagine some physiological change has occurred, presumably through the ageing process, because suddenly the sound of the modern solo piano is no longer a source of auditory personal torment, as it has been for several decades. Whatever the explanation, the result is that the floodgates have opened; and for some weeks now I've wanted to listen to little else.

It seemed very early on that I had a great opportunity here to escape that prejudice-forming practice of getting to know music through one particular recording, and consequently finding subsequent recordings somehow unsatisfactory, for no reason other than them not being the version through which I grew to love the music in the first place.

So I've adopted a fairly weird scattergun approach, of acquiring a variety of different artists' recordings so that each time I listened to a particular group of Nocturnes, or Preludes, or Walzes, etc, I could listen to a different interpretation - hopefully building up acquaintance with the music, rather than with some particular interpretation of it. And I'm trying not to attach too much weight to those that I think are emerging as my 'favourite' interpretations; but instead, give those a rest  in favour of others. For instance, one evening recently I listened to three successive recordings of the Nocturne Op.15 no.1, by Pires, Ashkenazy, and Leonskaja, expecting Pires (by reputation) to blow the others out of the water. Not so. Or at least, while Pires seemed to be offering liquid gold, Ashkenazy and Leonskaja were each offering, in their different ways, something less obviously glistening but still treasure nonetheless.

I'm not in a position yet to be able to articulate some of these differences in words, but I must say I'm enjoying this new multi-recording approach, and hope to make further comments here as my listening proceeds.

Listen on, listen on in majesty . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

NJ Joe

Hi,

Can I get a recommendation or three on the Preludes?
"Music can inspire love, religious ecstasy, cathartic release, social bonding, and a glimpse of another dimension. A sense that there is another time, another space and another, better universe."
-David Byrne

George

Quote from: NJ Joe on April 09, 2013, 03:26:16 PM
Hi,

Can I get a recommendation or three on the Preludes?

Sokolov on Naive, Moravec on Supraphon and Cortot, 1933 on EMI.
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Holden

Bolet Live at Carnegie (not the Decca). The whole concert is amazing!



Fiorentino - very hard to find on CD if at all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASX7qQCKOc0

Arrau live on APR

Cheers

Holden

George

Quote from: Holden on April 09, 2013, 04:26:08 PM
Bolet Live at Carnegie (not the Decca). The whole concert is amazing!


Also in his GPOTTC set.

QuoteFiorentino - very hard to find on CD if at all

Downloadable here for free: http://ceolnasidhe.blogspot.com/2009/11/sergio-fiorentino-chopin-preludes-and.html

"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

NJ Joe

"Music can inspire love, religious ecstasy, cathartic release, social bonding, and a glimpse of another dimension. A sense that there is another time, another space and another, better universe."
-David Byrne

Holden

The set I imprinted on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU6PxtOXf7E

Still excellent. I can't understand why EMI never released this on CD
Cheers

Holden

George

Quote from: Holden on April 09, 2013, 08:23:44 PM
The set I imprinted on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU6PxtOXf7E

Still excellent. I can't understand why EMI never released this on CD

I have his Rachmaninoff Piano Sonatas if you want to hear them. Never heard his Chopin.
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

George

"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: George on April 09, 2013, 03:40:08 PM
Cortot, 1933 on EMI.

When he didn't play wrong notes, Cortot was definitely amazing in Chopin. Though I prefer Rubinstein and Ashkenazy in the Preludes.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

betterthanfine

Quote from: NJ Joe on April 09, 2013, 03:26:16 PM
Hi,

Can I get a recommendation or three on the Preludes?

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Argerich yet. One of my favourite recordings. Maybe not as poetic as some other pianists, but extremely passionate and energetic.

[ASIN]B000060O5B[/ASIN]

betterthanfine

Also:

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Karl Henning

Quote from: betterthanfine on April 11, 2013, 03:19:37 AM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Argerich yet. One of my favourite recordings. Maybe not as poetic as some other pianists, but extremely passionate and energetic.

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(* pounds the table *)

Also available as part of:

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(* pounds the table again for, erm, emphasis *)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Coopmv

Quote from: George on April 09, 2013, 03:40:08 PM
Sokolov on Naive, Moravec on Supraphon and Cortot, 1933 on EMI.

I am glad I have all these recordings in my collection ...

Coopmv

Quote from: betterthanfine on April 11, 2013, 03:51:21 AM
Also:

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This is an excellent recording.  I just added it to my collection a few months ago ...

Octave

Quote from: betterthanfine on April 11, 2013, 03:51:21 AM
Also:
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FWIW I think this disc is included in its entirety in that ULTIMATE [sic] CHOPIN 5cd box, for those who are interested (it can sometimes be found dirt cheap, and is always cheap).  The other contents: Bolet/Dutoit's concertos, Ashkenazy's Nocturnes/Ballades, and Kocsis' Waltzes (fun to say).  I only know the Ashkenazy, but I've been thinking of getting this.

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Bogey

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Bogey

Is Argerich's 1965 winning recital at the Chopin Competition available? 
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Bogey

Ah....is this the best recording out there?  But within months....not the actual recital?

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz