James Bond, 007

Started by CriticalI, October 04, 2012, 08:54:16 PM

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Brian

Quote from: Todd on October 05, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
Oh shit, Adele sings the theme song.  That nixes it for me.  I can't stand her.
I can't ever remember disagreeing with you this strongly! My favorite voice (purely based on its sound) since ... uh ... well I'm not so big on pop music actually. Let's say Sharon Jones.

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North Star

Quote from: Todd on October 05, 2012, 11:49:59 AM
I could have sworn he was in both Casino Royale and Quantam of Solace.

Bond films are goofy entertainments for me, being so silly in their premises.  As such, Roger Moore is still the best Bond.  His smooth delivery and lightweight take is just right.  And some of the bits are awesome.  The "burglar protected" car in For You Eyes Only is still a hoot.  Dalton was too serious by half, and Craig is too serious by half again.
http://xkcd.com/566/
In License to Kill, it would be somewhat strange, if Bond wasn't serious.
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CriticalI

Has anyone seen the 60s Casino Royale? It's very ... 60s. I saw it on late-night TV years ago, which I guess suited its fever dream aspect. Apart from the notion of Woody Allen as Bond's inept son, the most memorable bit for me was David Niven (as the elder Bond) talking about lowering his bowels "to clean them in the traditional Tibetan manner".

The new erato

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Quote from: CriticalI on October 07, 2012, 04:51:27 PM
Has anyone seen the 60s Casino Royale? It's very ... 60s. I saw it on late-night TV years ago, which I guess suited its fever dream aspect. Apart from the notion of Woody Allen as Bond's inept son, the most memorable bit for me was David Niven (as the elder Bond) talking about lowering his bowels "to clean them in the traditional Tibetan manner".
It's 60ish in a way that the Connery movies never was. To put it benignly; it's camp. To put it more bluntly, it's hasn't aged well at all and for me just seems really bad.

Has anybody here seen the "Our man Flint" movies (I think there were two)? (The second was named "In like Flint" I see).

Karl Henning

Now and again I watch one of this chap's videos. Interesting remarks on the iconic theme. Also, a surprising bird poop reveal.

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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

T. D.

George Lazenby never seems to get mentioned, and when he does it's in derogatory terms, but I always thought he was quite good as Bond, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service a strong entry in the series.

Agree strongly with the upthread comment about Roger Moore tending to "genteel camp".

Disclosure: I long ago lost interest in the series. Last one I saw (and I'd missed more than a few up to that point) was the first Craig, which was pretty good IMO and a welcome departure from campiness.

Karl Henning

Quote from: T. D. on July 10, 2023, 11:30:22 AMGeorge Lazenby never seems to get mentioned, and when he does it's in derogatory terms, but I always thought he was quite good as Bond, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service a strong entry in the series.

Yes. I never actually got around to watching this one until the Craig era was under way.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vers la flamme

I watched Dr. No & You Only Live Twice for the first time recently. I haven't seen any of the Connery Bond films. Where to next?

Karl Henning

Quote from: vers la flamme on July 10, 2023, 04:54:30 PMI watched Dr. No & You Only Live Twice for the first time recently. I haven't seen any of the Connery Bond films. Where to next?
Cool. From Russia With Love
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Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

San Antone

Quote from: CriticalI on October 07, 2012, 04:51:27 PMHas anyone seen the 60s Casino Royale? It's very ... 60s. I saw it on late-night TV years ago, which I guess suited its fever dream aspect. Apart from the notion of Woody Allen as Bond's inept son, the most memorable bit for me was David Niven (as the elder Bond) talking about lowering his bowels "to clean them in the traditional Tibetan manner".

It wasn't produced by Broccoli, not based on the book since they did not own the rights, they just used the title, and is not part of the series, IMO . Which is why the book was remade with Craig in 2006.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

I like Moore's Bond. Connery is a little macho and chauvinistic to me. I'd like a Post-materialist Bond driving Prius and wearing Zara.

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VonStupp

Quote from: The new erato on July 11, 2023, 09:20:15 PMProbably the best Bond movie.

My favorite book too, as I remember.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: The new erato on July 11, 2023, 09:20:15 PMProbably the best Bond movie.
Our parents took us to see it at the drive-in, long ago.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ganondorf

From Russia With Love and Goldfinger, definitely.

T. D.

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Quote from: Ganondorf on July 12, 2023, 06:43:38 AMFrom Russia With Love and Goldfinger, definitely.

From Russia with Love is the best in the series IMO, practically definitive.

Goldfinger is one of the handful you have to see. But on hindsight it, more than any other film, seems to have launched the descent (IMO) into cartoonishness / campiness of the Bond series. Granted, that over-the-top element was present to a degree from the very start. Even in the Fleming novels (Rosa Klebb and the toe spike? "Pussy Galore"?).

Karl Henning

Quote from: T. D. on July 12, 2023, 09:26:22 AMFrom Russia with Love is the best in the series IMO, practically definitive.
The pre-title sequence is deliciously provoking.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Minty says that Licence to Kill is his favorite Bond movie.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot